Can someone explain to me like I'm 5, why you would need to communicate with a cloud service to use a 3D printer?
Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer
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#32Who are some 3D printer vendors that are worthy of support?
Obviously it depends on what you’re doing and what is importante to you. It’s hard to beat Bambi Labs H2D or X2D for versatility, practicality, and price. Engineering filaments are getting a lot cheaper as the market expands so it helps to have a printer than can handle those. Given Bambi Labs is so cheap compared to the alternatives customers would probably be better off putting aside the savings to buy a second printer from a different supplier when one starts to catch up.
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Bambu Labs is completely ignoring their legal duties under the AGPL code they used while trying to make others comply to their licensing terms through abuse of the legal system.
Nobody forced them to use said code, they chose to when it was in their best interest and now they renege on the part in the license (the only thing that gives them a right to use and build on said code) when they deem it not in their interest any longer and think they're big enough to squash individuals protesting.
Nothing wrong there, right, chairman?
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#34Can someone explain to me like I'm 5, why you would need to communicate with a cloud service to use a 3D printer?
You don't really, but the entire ecosystem is quite ergonomic for people who don't want to fiddle with software, connections, config, permissions, etc. and Just Print something.
Not defending Bambu. The UX is quite straightforward and easy, however.
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#35Reminds me of:
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can use Bambu printers fully offline. All this vitriol about them is severely misplaced IMO.
That comes with a big caveat. You can either choose to use the printer offline, or online, with no ability to use both. If you want the ability to monitor or pause a print when you're not home on the off chance something goes wrong, you HAVE to send every print through their cloud, there's no middle ground. That's not Bambu being open, that's them doing the absolute minimum to allow people to say "you can use Bambu p…
Wait, that’s still just about their phone app. When you disable the cloud features, you lose the phone app, but otherwise the printer is fully usable. You can still connect to it through Bambu studio, you just have to roll your own networking (e.g. a VPN), right?
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some time ago the printers were able to communicate over both cloud and local protocols. Then, in a firmware update, they created distinct modes for those. You can still use the printers with OrcaSlicer, but in a mode that prevents being controlled by cloud too.
This is a feature. When I enable LAN mode I do not want Bambu to be able to control my printer. It remains astonishing to me that this is controversial. Not everyone has the knowhow to block internet access to their printer, so having a toggle in firmware is terrific. I've verified after turning it on that it never phones home. Couldn't be happier.
It’s fully understandable to want that and exactly what I use too. It still sucks for people that did want to start their prints locally and control them over the app.
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#38Can someone explain to me like I'm 5, why you would need to communicate with a cloud service to use a 3D printer?
Remote device control allows for running and monitoring prints from another networks with zero effort, but more importantly local device control can't be monetized. It's just about the money.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think there is an element of audience capture. Similar to how ElectroBOOM has to keep electrocuting himself for his audience. It’s a living…
Maybe you know this, but ElectroBOOM doesn't actually electrocute himself, it's just a running gag.
The few I’ve seen were obviously staged but it did appear real in that he was hit with a high voltage. Looking it up suggests that he has been injured a number of times due to miscalculations.
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If you are referring to his video from May 2023, "Why I deleted GrapheneOS", it is about the team lead, Daniel Micay, not about GrapheneOS itself. He, in fact, praises GrapheneOS to no end in the very same video.