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Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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Post by RobotToaster »

Aurornis wrote: post #7

OrcaSlicer supports Bambu printers already. Does anyone have any better sources for what this other fork supposedly did? EDIT: I’m not going to sit through another angry Louis Rossmann video, but from what I can see someone tried to make a branch of OrcaSlicer that interacted directly with Bambu’s private cloud APIs to impersonate Bambu Studio. I don’t agree with the legal threats but this case is about connecting to…

Bambu's proprietary networking plugin uses the agpl libraries from slic3r/prusaslicer, by not releasing the source code they're violating the AGPL.

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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Post by stavros »

cjbgkagh wrote: post #19
gosub100 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

he projects a lot of is emotional issues into his work. I support what he does, but he appears to make himself miserable in the process.

I think there is an element of audience capture. Similar to how ElectroBOOM has to keep electrocuting himself for his audience. It’s a living…

Maybe you know this, but ElectroBOOM doesn't actually electrocute himself, it's just a running gag.

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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Post by HowTheStoryEnds »

vitaflo wrote: post #16
PunchyHamster wrote: post #5

Definitely gives me second thoughts about getting one. They look like easiest way to get into 3d printing as a tool (rather than another hobby), but their recent attitude just makes me think I should suffer a bit less advanced product just to not have to deal with that shit.

You can use Bambu printers fully offline. All this vitriol about them is severely misplaced IMO.

Where can I get the source code they modified?

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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Post by stavros »

smitty1e wrote: post #2

Who are some 3D printer vendors that are worthy of support?

Prusa is the most open of the printer manufacturers. They did have to backtrack a bit because Bambu copied their slicer to use for themselves and undercut them, but they're still as open as you can get in a capitalist economy.

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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Post by exabrial »

Louis is one of the most passionate YouTubers you can watch. I don't think he gets it right 100% of the time, but when you are that vulnerable (and what appears to be authentic) you're bound to not make the the right call every once in awhile (as we all do).

I support him even though people can pick him apart.

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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Post by dspillett »

jonpurdy wrote: post #15
Aurornis wrote: post #7

OrcaSlicer supports Bambu printers already. Does anyone have any better sources for what this other fork supposedly did? EDIT: I’m not going to sit through another angry Louis Rossmann video, but from what I can see someone tried to make a branch of OrcaSlicer that interacted directly with Bambu’s private cloud APIs to impersonate Bambu Studio. I don’t agree with the legal threats but this case is about connecting to…

Very useful comment. I’ve had an A1 Mini for a year now and it has been my favourite purchase in years. Like when I got my first mobile phone, I feel like I’ll have some sort of 3d printer for the rest of my life. Bambu made it super easy and inexpensive for this to happen. I’m completely against bullying and attempts to lock out open source software from using 3d printers directly; if they locked out OrcaSlicer from…

> But trying to interact directly with Bambu’s private infrastructure/APis seems reasonable for Bambu to block.

Even if they have taken away other routes that used to exist so that this is the only way?

I've also been very happy with my A1 (bought ~18 months go), and have since bought a U1 (which has networking problems of its own, but is otherwise a great upgrade) alongside it. Unless Bambu changes its tack significantly I'll not be buying another of their machines or more of their materials¹.

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[1] well, maybe the light grey PLA as I've not yet found anything similar enough easily available in the UK, and it is perfect for prints that I want to look neutral or for some scifi ships & similar…

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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Post by stavros »

nullstyle wrote: post #10
GuB-42 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say Prussa. I am not going to say they are perfect, but I think they have a good balance of ethics, openness, product quality, innovation, availability and price. By that I mean their are the best in none of them, but I don't think of anything better as a combination.

Prusa sat on its haunches for a decade, happy to leave progress on the table as long as their salaries got paid. Bambu actually got non-technical people into the hobby and has always had more bang per buck. Buy a bambu; use Orcaslicer Edit: didn't mean to say "held the industry back"; I would categorize my opinion more along the lines of "were happy to get fat on past offerings" or the like.

How did Prusa hold the industry back? Were they suing other printer manufacturers who innovated?

"Not innovating myself" isn't the same as "holding other's innovations back".

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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Post by hamdingers »

exitb wrote: post #13
Aurornis wrote: post #7

OrcaSlicer supports Bambu printers already. Does anyone have any better sources for what this other fork supposedly did? EDIT: I’m not going to sit through another angry Louis Rossmann video, but from what I can see someone tried to make a branch of OrcaSlicer that interacted directly with Bambu’s private cloud APIs to impersonate Bambu Studio. I don’t agree with the legal threats but this case is about connecting to…

Some time ago the printers were able to communicate over both cloud and local protocols. Then, in a firmware update, they created distinct modes for those. You can still use the printers with OrcaSlicer, but in a mode that prevents being controlled by cloud too.

This is a feature. When I enable LAN mode I do not want Bambu to be able to control my printer.

It remains astonishing to me that this is controversial. Not everyone has the knowhow to block internet access to their printer, so having a toggle in firmware is terrific. I've verified after turning it on that it never phones home. Couldn't be happier.

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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Post by kennywinker »

smitty1e wrote: post #2

Who are some 3D printer vendors that are worthy of support?

I just bought a qidi printer. It arrives in a few days, so I can’t speak to the machine’s quality beyond saying it’s reviewed pretty well - but the software is all open source klipper with no locks preventing you from modifying it. The hardware itself is closed source, but if you want an open hardware machine in 2026 you need to build your own voron.
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