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Re: I'm writing a history of Visual Basic, Chapter 1 is up

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I have a lot of fond memories of Visual Basic for MS-DOS 1.0. I remember saving up for it at high school with my student discount. From memory it was about $120.

IIRC VB for DOS came out after the Windows version...

I remember the form designer was a standout feature. Microsoft added a complete UI framework into VB for DOS based on the standard ASCII character set.

VB for DOS really needed a version 2.0, but it never got it.

Re: I'm writing a history of Visual Basic, Chapter 1 is up

#32

I have a lot of fond memories of Visual Basic for MS-DOS 1.0. I remember saving up for it at high school with my student discount. From memory it was about $120.

Same. My first paid programming job while I was in college was for writing VB 5 software for local businesses. The GUI builder was the obvious star, but you could also write sophisticated programs.

Re: I'm writing a history of Visual Basic, Chapter 1 is up

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post #33

Ah yes, Mcosoft ΓΛAX and Microsoft Marl. Groundbreaking products that paved the way for Visual Basic, Visual Studio, and beyond.

Unironically, yes, this, Ifsuѧl Bacti1on|, and weird computer shape (extra-thick 3.5"-looking floppy and... what that slot is even supposed to be?) makes it look worse than it should. I get that the value is in other content, and this is just a basic illustration for the sake of having some picture (for aesthetics, I guess?). So it was made with minimum effort possible just to have something, that's cool, effort matters elsewhere.

But it doesn't only look sloppy or hastily made, it also looks inaccurate - and that really makes a bad impression. "Inaccurate" or "careless" are not the words any author should want their reader to think about.

A screenshot from an emulator, showing the same message but formatted as a BASIC program (just a bunch of PRINTs or REMs) - or something similarly simple to make, lacking glaring inauthenticity - would make a drastically better impression.

Re: I'm writing a history of Visual Basic, Chapter 1 is up

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Why on earth would you use an AI-generated image [1] (let me be clear: POOR AI IMAGE) for the banner of this project? If you're going to use genai, you need to make sure it actually looks acceptable. Do at least one careful pass over it before publishing. Just look at the details: - The text on the book spines doesn’t even spell “Microsoft” correctly. - Dartmouth is spelled "Darmouth". SIGH. - The screenshot on the C…

Haha wow you weren’t kidding. That image is so bad that it looks like it was generated using 3 year old models.

The computer screen I can forgive, but if they author genuinely doesn’t have access to modern image generation tools then they could have at least loaded that image up in GIMP, Paint.NET or even just MS Paint, and added the text themselves.

Re: I'm writing a history of Visual Basic, Chapter 1 is up

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Why on earth would you use an AI-generated image [1] (let me be clear: POOR AI IMAGE) for the banner of this project? If you're going to use genai, you need to make sure it actually looks acceptable. Do at least one careful pass over it before publishing. Just look at the details: - The text on the book spines doesn’t even spell “Microsoft” correctly. - Dartmouth is spelled "Darmouth". SIGH. - The screenshot on the C…

Get used to it. This is the future we've created for ourselves. It's only going to get worse as people everywhere try to use AI to distinguish themselves. Expect everyone to be an artist, everyone to be an author, everyone to be a programmer. Slop. It's what's for dinner.

The problem isn’t the use of AI. It’s the lack of editorial effort to use AI well.

Modern image generation models can handle text fine. Or the author could have left those artefacts blank and added the text themselves in “post production”

Re: I'm writing a history of Visual Basic, Chapter 1 is up

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get used to it. This is the future we've created for ourselves. It's only going to get worse as people everywhere try to use AI to distinguish themselves. Expect everyone to be an artist, everyone to be an author, everyone to be a programmer. Slop. It's what's for dinner.

The problem isn’t the use of AI. It’s the lack of editorial effort to use AI well . Modern image generation models can handle text fine. Or the author could have left those artefacts blank and added the text themselves in “post production”

The problem is the use of AI. It’s a reliable indicator that the author doesn’t actually care about the quality of the work, so I shouldn’t bother to read the text.
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