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Re: Getting arrested in Japan

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Post by pas »

arcfour wrote: post #190
Aurornis wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is it really a crucial detail though? Literally the central trigger point of the story. > For the record, I have not watched any video or read anything else about this individual. Nor do I intend to. Then I can see why you're not interested in the details

It doesn't matter though. Nobody should be treated like this, especially not before their guilt has been proven.

reasonable suspicion is a pretty well established concept. importing controlled substances would get an arrest warrant easily anywhere if law enforcement decides to pursue the case.

the administive pretrial detention is also pretty common, especially nowadays with the ICE craze.

nobody should be treated like this, agreed, but that doesn't mean that the process has no correlation to the level of guilt established and the certainty of it.

(the real problem is that it's way too many bullshit laws.)

Re: Getting arrested in Japan

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Post by pech0rin »

I love how this starts out by listing “innocent” laws that you can break. Its your job to know the laws of the country and if you break them you should be punished. US people love visiting Japan and talking about how safe it is. Why exactly do you think its so safe?

Re: Getting arrested in Japan

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Post by kstenerud »

g-b-r wrote: post #97
zulux wrote: post #76

Pro Tip: When visiting Japan, dress and comport yourself so you don't look like you should be thrown in jail, and it will happen a lot less often. As a Mexican friend puts it for Mexico: Dress as the police should believe you.

I wonder if that's possible in Japan for a black person

The Japanese like Africans, placing them only slightly lower than Europeans. Basically if you're not dressed like a thug and don't have certain tattoos, and aren't Brazilian, Korean or Chinese, you'll usually be treated pretty nicely.

Re: Getting arrested in Japan

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Post by tgsovlerkhgsel »

gravypod wrote: post #90
aloisklink wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author mentions it in a YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2epTf2IW1g (at the 2:20 mark). But essentially, somebody else sent her a package with something illegal in it that she didn't ask for. The police took her passport for a few months and searched her house. After a few months, she got her passport returned to her, she left Japan temporarily, but when she came back, they arrested her "to ensure…

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You wait it out. You can also take some alternatives (e.g. Sinupret) that may or may not have any effect, while waiting it out.

Re: Getting arrested in Japan

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Post by kstenerud »

bobsmooth wrote: post #203
tokkkie wrote: post #195

stealing or overstaying visa is crime everywhere. why surprised about arrest? other countries ignore this? from japan.

Torturing prisoners not even convicted of a crime is something we don't do in America.

Well, not as official policy anyway.

Re: Getting arrested in Japan

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Post by simianparrot »

hparadiz wrote: post #206
eduction wrote: post #161

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You can love Japanese culture and still call them out when they are clearly uncivilized. We're talking about a culture largely defined by the same people that did Nanjing. It's quite ironic that the same culture that claims to be pacifist has no problem inflicting psychological torture on prisoners. Asia in general has this problem. Makes me think of TNG (Season 1, Episode 8). Death for walking on the grass. What is…

«Uncivilised»

Compared to what? European and other western countries with significantly higher crime rates?

Safety comes at a cost.

Re: Getting arrested in Japan

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Post by itake »

Aurornis wrote: post #121
aloisklink wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author mentions it in a YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2epTf2IW1g (at the 2:20 mark). But essentially, somebody else sent her a package with something illegal in it that she didn't ask for. The police took her passport for a few months and searched her house. After a few months, she got her passport returned to her, she left Japan temporarily, but when she came back, they arrested her "to ensure…

> somebody else sent her a package with something illegal in it that she didn't ask for. > She also mentioned it was "the most normal type of thing you can think of"; This doesn't really answer the question, though. It's frustrating to try to interpret these stories with a lot of writing and video describing everything except the crucial detail about what the charges were for. I don't think she's trying to withhold i…

At the end of the blog post, it says the charges were eventually dropped.

23 days of her life gone over dropped charges.

Re: Getting arrested in Japan

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Post by Klonoar »

commandersaki wrote: post #11

Something as small as getting into a heated argument in public, accidentally taking an item you didn’t pay for, overstaying a visa, or even grabbing someone else’s umbrella or bike thinking it was yours can escalate further than you could imagine and have you arrested before you’ve even had a chance to explain. Is this actually true or just fearmongering? I mean really, no chance to explain? Sounds as dumb as being f…

The article is vastly overstating some of that stuff. I used to live there.

It’s also amusing to me that anything Japan related winds up on the front page of HN, but a similar article for a different country would probably go un-voted.

Re: Getting arrested in Japan

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Post by sershe »

I dunno, I think maybe that is a big part of why these countries are so safe? It is a form of meritocratic classism if you will. You are expected to be a certain kind of (law-abiding among other things) person. If you behave like you might not be the kind of person you get an implicit "social credit" downgrade and are treated like crap end to end. Sure, they might be "overreacting" all things considered, but in the US on the other hand there are examples of clearly dangerous people being catch and released because rights and dignity, until they actually murdered someone. There's a tradeoff, but the Japanese approach appears to be closer to the optimal point.

Re: Getting arrested in Japan

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Post by simianparrot »

iamnothere wrote: post #197
tristanj wrote: post #145

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The claim that Japan is "safe" because it has a high conviction rate is a junk meme. The United States federal conviction rate is essentially identical to the Japanese judicial conviction rate when measured by the same methodology. It's roughly 99.6-99.8% depending on the year. Japan is safe because of other factors, not their conviction rate. > they swipe up every single criminal they can, plus a bunch of random peo…

Exactly. What is it with the weird attacks on Japan here? Chinese sockpuppet accounts maybe?

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