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Distributing Mac software is increasing my cortisol levels

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Re: Distributing Mac software is increasing my cortisol levels

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Post by krackers »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #23
novafunc wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rather than just having the options "Done" and "Move to Bin", give me an option to actually run it without having to manually go into System Settings each and every time without disabling security features? The added friction feels more like a way to force developers to pay Apple an annual fee for distributing rather than for my safety. Not saying it doesn't help with safety, just that it's more weighed to the former…

> without disabling security features? With Gatekeeper turned off, you’ll still get a warning on first launch which you can easily click through. (Unless Apple changed something in the last few versions—let me know if that’s the case—but it would be out of character for them to remove a warning...) The “security feature” you don’t want to disable is precisely the thing you are complaining about, so I don’t understand…

> substantial amount of money from $99/year developer subscriptions

You actually do get some value, you can file two DTS tickets [1] a year which are (supposedly) looked at by a real apple engineer. Assuming they haven't outsourced it, that feels worth about $100 considering how badly documented their APIs are.

[1] https://developer.apple.com/support/technical/

Re: Distributing Mac software is increasing my cortisol levels

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Post by Rendello »

m-s-y wrote: post #76
Rendello wrote: post #47

I love when my Mac declares random PDFs malware and deletes them when I try to open them. On two occasions I've been completely dumbstruck when the software I was using was deleted out from under me. I'm not a fan of the overuse of "gaslight", but it sure felt like that when I had to restart Docker and the OS was like "what do you mean, Docker? You've never had Docker installed! What are you talking about? Are you fe…

Sorry to say but your PDFs were malware. In 20+ years I’ve never seen this on my Macs nor the literal thousands I’ve managed with various MDMs.

I'm really trying to remember the context, I wish I'd written it down somewhere. But now that I'm thinking of it, I'm almost certain it wasn't PDFs, but JSON files that I'd written. For some reason it would allow me to open them in some applications, but in others I'd get a warning and the file would be trashed.

The Docker thing happened as described in my linked post. It happened with something else too, but again I can't remember. I wasn't planning on doing a post mortem so I guess I let the details slip!

In any case, I do like most of the OS' ways of doing things, including security. But it can be overzealous.

P.S. I'm not crazy! I'm not crazy!!!

Re: Distributing Mac software is increasing my cortisol levels

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Post by [deleted] »

neoeno wrote: post #16
petra303 wrote: post #14

> I can use SmartID to verify my ID (and age) in about 20 seconds when buying an energy drink at the local grocery store Where do you have to show ID for that??

Under 16s can’t buy energy drinks in the UK Edit: currently a voluntary but widespread scheme by retailers, proposed to be law. TIL

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Re: Distributing Mac software is increasing my cortisol levels

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Post by Ngraph »

Honestly painful to read. I tried to distribute a free utility to some friends last year and bailed somewhere mid-enrollment. Just wanted maybe ten people to download a thing. The whole flow felt designed for someone shipping to millions and I just couldn't justify it for what I was actually doing.

Hope this finds its audience on Itch.

Re: Distributing Mac software is increasing my cortisol levels

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Post by snarfy »

wolvoleo wrote: post #134
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #124

Apple's not making any money on developer subscriptions. I suspect they just want to have a velvet rope, to encourage folks to be serious about their work. They don't want farting-around toys. They want developers to ship serious apps. There'$ a rea$on that $o many people want to relea$e Apple app$. A $uperb rea$on. It's a really lucrative market. People like to have access to customers that are used to paying a lot.…

> They don't want farting-around toys. They want developers to ship serious apps. What users want to install on their own computer is none of apple's business though.

That's entirely against Apple's whole philosophy. You are after all, holding it wrong.

Re: Distributing Mac software is increasing my cortisol levels

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Post by Nevermark »

dangus wrote: post #108
kqp wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> what do you actually want? Give me the ability to choose what I trust. “You can either trust Apple and nobody else, even yourself, or you can trust literally everybody” is obviously not a good faith implementation of this. Apple excels at steering the narrative with false conflation and false dichotomy, I’d also remind you of the came-and-went secure boot debate, which Apple successfully steered into Apple owns the…

I think you should read up on how secure boot works with macOS and alternate operating systems before speaking this negatively about the implementation. Apple is already giving you exactly what you’re asking for. It’s not really even that different than a PC motherboard that gives you “Windows UEFI” and “enroll my own keys” as options. https://asahilinux.org/docs/platform/security/ As far as code signing, again, what…

This is that false dichotomy.

You can turn off all protection, as you point out. So who Apple markets Neo's to isn't a factor.

> Apple’s fault if nobody else decided to make their own trust repositories and the only alternative on the market is to have no safeguard at all.

Does Apple provide a means for enabling third party trust systems, without disabling Apple's protections in general? If not, that is a serious problem of Apple's choosing. Nobody (to a first order approximation) want's to dispense with Apple's protection, or re-implement it, but to be able to carve out exceptions for specific classes of software.

Re: Distributing Mac software is increasing my cortisol levels

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Post by newAccount2025 »

Ugh. I just went through this ID verification process yesterday and I got it to work on /maybe/ the 8th try. Truly horrible design. Now I’m in a paperwork exchange with some random third party to get the account associated with my LLC. It would be awesome to be able to just write and distribute software, but there’s only one iOS monopoly so what are you going to do but play ball.
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