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Re: A recent experience with ChatGPT 5.5 Pro

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Post by 2wdfsd »

baq wrote: post #409
bigyabai wrote: post #359

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You're not a frontier lab, the shareholders own those. And if shareholders get a private briefing about an unprecedented breakthrough in continual learning, they would announce it from the rooftops to take credit for the progress ASAP and reap the rewards for their stock value. The only lab that I can exempt from this is DARPA.

Shareholders are not insiders. Public companies do secret projects all the time of which shareholders know absolutely nothing about and may never learn the details of them if they get cancelled.

Private market dynamics are not the same buddy.

Re: A recent experience with ChatGPT 5.5 Pro

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Post by 2wdfsd »

adampunk wrote: post #291
lmpdev wrote: post #35

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I mean in the same way getting Wolfram Alpha to solve a really hard/ugly differential equation I suppose

Mario Andretti could never have won a motor race without a car, yet we say he won the Indy500.

And? What a stupid post.

These race car drivers are lauded for steering a particular kind of car amongst their competitors.

The human is what people care about - the car whilst being spectacular is literally just a vehicle.

I swear many here don't understand human's at all.

Re: A recent experience with ChatGPT 5.5 Pro

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Post by ignoramous »

refulgentis wrote: post #410
y1n0 wrote: post #404

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> This jives with what I've experienced Just as an fyi, the word you are looking for is jibes. Jive is something else entirely.

That ship sailed looooong ago.

> looooong

Just as an fyi, the words you are looking for are ages/eons/an eternity.

Re: A recent experience with ChatGPT 5.5 Pro

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Post by pear01 »

doginasuit wrote: post #225
tempaccount5050 wrote: post #159

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Are you a cutting edge research scientist or something? Everyone I know works in the same domain every day. The problems are the same. People aren't solving brand new problems to humanity every day. We make budgets and look at ticket counts. Roll out patches. Replace hardware. Upgrade software packages. Make a new dashboard to track a project. I guess if every day is a completely novel thing for you, ok. I feel like…

I don't think it matters much what kind of problem it is. If it is challenging enough to benefit from assistance and you end up playing a minor role in the solution, it seems like you are putting yourself in the worst position possible. You lose your edge for functioning within the problem space and it raises the question why you are even in the loop at all. If its job security you want, transforming your role into L…

It's an adversarial economy. Using a LLM at work doesn't mean the work is challenging. A lot of jobs are "bullshit jobs". People are using LLMs because it gives them back time. If they don't use it their colleague will and make them look bad.

Company might fire you tomorrow. Fundamentally if a LLM can do the job it's not just employees at risk, it is also the company. There is a lot of symmetry actually with how companies delegate to employees to how employees delegate to LLMs. You can follow the logic to conclude a lot of companies are then bullshit companies. This is not a problem for the individual to solve. Your job at work is akin to the company's - earn the best return while you still can. Wasting your time for the essentially the same output at a slower pace is a bad return.

When people get laid off en masse this incentive structure will have to be altered. But telling an individual to ignore their basic economic incentives until then is unlikely to work.

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Post by pear01 »

Peaches4Rent wrote: post #378
tempaccount5050 wrote: post #367

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Ok let's make math illegal and burn down the data centers I guess. Idk what to tell you, but we will adapt and new roles will be created. Just like every single tool and piece of tech that came before. LLM manager? Fine.

The difference so far is that these LLMs are owned by corporations, and very aggressive American corporations at that. So now you are essentially reliant on them. Not saying that this is something new, but times they are a changin

Don't use your laptop. Or your phone. It's owned by a corporation.

Do you hear yourself? If you don't want to rely on corporations go live in the woods.

Re: A recent experience with ChatGPT 5.5 Pro

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Post by anyonecancode »

pear01 wrote: post #435
Peaches4Rent wrote: post #378

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The difference so far is that these LLMs are owned by corporations, and very aggressive American corporations at that. So now you are essentially reliant on them. Not saying that this is something new, but times they are a changin

Don't use your laptop. Or your phone. It's owned by a corporation. Do you hear yourself? If you don't want to rely on corporations go live in the woods.

In the US, much of the woods are owned by corporations too. Those that aren't are, in theory, owned by the public, but the oligarchs work hard to hollow that out so that practically public lands are owned by them too.

Re: A recent experience with ChatGPT 5.5 Pro

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Post by hirvi74 »

agiipullor wrote: post #121
imiric wrote: post #115

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> Creativity is connecting ideas from different domains and see if something from one field applies to another. That's true. The question is whether the produced pattern has any value. LLMs are incapable of determining this, and will still often hallucinate, and make random baseless claims that can convince anyone except human domain experts. And that's still a difficult challenge: a domain expert is still needed to…

> And can we please stop calling pattern matching and generation "intelligence" thats literally what an IQ test tests - abstract pattern matching. but I guess you dont like IQ tests either

Some IQ tests like the WAIS test on retained, common facts. They are not all just pattern matching.

Also, I do not like IQ tests either (having taken one myself). They are unbelievably boring, pointless, and measure more than just "intelligence."

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Post by doginasuit »

aspenmartin wrote: post #290
doginasuit wrote: post #265

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Compilers just made it all possible, but they are not new and shiny. LLMs did not produce the philosophical questions, but they do raise them. It's worth noting that computers have been changing the way we think about consciousness long before LLMs, largely thanks to compilers.

Yea there’s no logical stopping point when you use that logic. Why not say electricity or the element silicon?

This may not go over well but I also find electricity more impressive.

Re: A recent experience with ChatGPT 5.5 Pro

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Post by doginasuit »

pear01 wrote: post #434
doginasuit wrote: post #225

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I don't think it matters much what kind of problem it is. If it is challenging enough to benefit from assistance and you end up playing a minor role in the solution, it seems like you are putting yourself in the worst position possible. You lose your edge for functioning within the problem space and it raises the question why you are even in the loop at all. If its job security you want, transforming your role into L…

It's an adversarial economy. Using a LLM at work doesn't mean the work is challenging. A lot of jobs are "bullshit jobs". People are using LLMs because it gives them back time. If they don't use it their colleague will and make them look bad. Company might fire you tomorrow. Fundamentally if a LLM can do the job it's not just employees at risk, it is also the company. There is a lot of symmetry actually with how comp…

I have also come to the conclusion independently that a lot of companies are bullshit companies, maybe that is closer to the core issue. For the individuals who do have some choice in the matter, I think it is important to hold on to their skills by continuing to use them. It sucks that our work culture is so competitive, but from that angle I believe they will stand out eventually as more competent.

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Post by bee_rider »

aspenmartin wrote: post #256
doginasuit wrote: post #253

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I actually consider compilers more impressive, and a compiler was an important part of making this possible.

To each their own. I mean compilers didn’t produce trillions of dollars of investment, and produce serious and profound philosophical questions about the nature of consciousness but you’re right, thank god we have C

Compilers were required for our whole tech ecosystem. They just didn’t require trillions of dollars of investment to become useful.
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