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The FCC wants your ID before you get a phone number

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Re: The FCC wants your ID before you get a phone number

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Already the case in most EU countries. I don't know if there is a commensurate robocaller problem.

Come to think of it, when I get an EU SIM, it does start getting robocalls... as soon as I give the number to some Big Legitimate Business that is supposed to be observing GDPR and whatnot.

Come to think of it, from what I know about this "mass surveillance" bullshit, robocallers being an inside job makes perfect sense.

Re: The FCC wants your ID before you get a phone number

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This is part of the same trend which requires ID to use social media, view adult content, or log into their own computer. The goal is to give government control of computers and communications.

China has had the requirement to "bind" online accounts to ID for almost a decade. No one complained because they already verified with Weixin (WeChat) so they just linked their accounts to it.

Re: The FCC wants your ID before you get a phone number

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This is part of the same trend which requires ID to use social media, view adult content, or log into their own computer. The goal is to give government control of computers and communications.

Yep. Google an offense contractor for the department of war is now going to require phone attestation to access the internet. This goes right in line with the actual desires here. Technofacism is going to hit fast. Especially seeing as how many people here and in other communities have their head in the sand.

Re: The FCC wants your ID before you get a phone number

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This is part of the same trend which requires ID to use social media, view adult content, or log into their own computer. The goal is to give government control of computers and communications.

The creeping is advanced by the blue/red team mentality too. MAGA won't care about this because their guy is in charge. If he were not, there would be conspiracy theories about how this is all a plan to get Trump and his supporters. For now team blue complains until their guy is in charge, like how Biden insisted everyone needed to show vaccine papers to participate in society and they were silent. Few can see that the two teams are different sides of the same coin.

Re: The FCC wants your ID before you get a phone number

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I can understand the motivation. I've had the same number since the 90's and never once got a spam call until I was in the hospital last year and since then I've been getting 2-3 a day every day. They've probably left at least a thousand voice mails for a great loan opportunity, all from different numbers and different loan amounts.

>until I was in the hospital last year So much for HIPAA huh?

Science opportunity! >:]

Get yourself locked up in the slammer for a night while carrying a fresh burner; observe them writing down your IMEI and IMSI; see if that makes you start getting robocalls.

Re: The FCC wants your ID before you get a phone number

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Does anyone imagine the government doesn’t already know who owns every phone number? Also, couldn’t this system be optional, numbers that are ID-verified are somehow flagged so (assuming I choose) when one calls my phone knows to let it through and when an unverified number calls it doesn’t ring?

They know through indirect means. So they buy all the cellphone data specifically the gps location data in the us and funnel it through huge servers. So they can determine patterns, addresses, etc.

This makes that easier and doesn't risk any of the legality if their should be illegal data sources or other likely illegal activities.

Tldr: This is a way to defeat vpns.

Re: The FCC wants your ID before you get a phone number

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Privacy has to be one goal among many in a reasonable society. I am very glad to see this change, because phone-based Fraud is a plague on the Elderly and other vulnerable members of society. And an incredible annoyance even to a security conscious professional. The guard against intrusive and oppressive government is the Bill of Rights, not some easy ability to get a phone number anonymously.

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