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Felt same way about GrapheneOS but a few friends set it up so i gave it a try. It is easy to install and use. As evidence, I gave my 70 year old father one and he loves it.
Can you run Graphene on non Pixel phones?
Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
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Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
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> Much like age verification Age verification as a technical concept can be done in a privacy-preserving manner! Whether or not we want age verification is another debate, but let's stop making wrong technical claims about that: it doesn't help.
Really, how? At some point someone will need to issue a key, which at some point will need to be verified against known good signatures. These signatures will also need to be kept in case of lawsuirs/enforcement, so if somebody gets access they will know you visited that site
Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
#373Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Much like age verification Age verification as a technical concept can be done in a privacy-preserving manner! Whether or not we want age verification is another debate, but let's stop making wrong technical claims about that: it doesn't help.
Really, how? At some point someone will need to issue a key, which at some point will need to be verified against known good signatures. These signatures will also need to be kept in case of lawsuirs/enforcement, so if somebody gets access they will know you visited that site
Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
#374I don't know what services a TPM chip does provide. Wild guess, some private keys, hidden to the computer user, are used to sign stuff and/or encrypt ?
Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
#375Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Much like age verification Age verification as a technical concept can be done in a privacy-preserving manner! Whether or not we want age verification is another debate, but let's stop making wrong technical claims about that: it doesn't help.
Really, how? At some point someone will need to issue a key, which at some point will need to be verified against known good signatures. These signatures will also need to be kept in case of lawsuirs/enforcement, so if somebody gets access they will know you visited that site
Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
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Everyone, including Linus Torvalds, who rejected Stallman as too political or ideological, and advocated for "pragmatism" instead, is part of the reason we're where we are today. And it's going to get a lot worse, before it ever gets better.
I disagree. The reason we are where we are today is the lack of antitrust.
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Really, how? At some point someone will need to issue a key, which at some point will need to be verified against known good signatures. These signatures will also need to be kept in case of lawsuirs/enforcement, so if somebody gets access they will know you visited that site
Parental controls on device are a better solution that work today and don't carry a risk of data breach.
There's not necessarily wrong. Despite the vapid and damaging nature of most popular online media, isolating a child from it might have even worse social consequences when their real-life peer groups discover that they're not on social media or that their parents have neutered their phone. Some kids would turn out fine after that. Others would be socially destroyed for life (maybe with the right therapy they could become well-adjusted, but high quality therapy is rare).
Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
#378Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
#379Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Much like age verification Age verification as a technical concept can be done in a privacy-preserving manner! Whether or not we want age verification is another debate, but let's stop making wrong technical claims about that: it doesn't help.
Really, how? At some point someone will need to issue a key, which at some point will need to be verified against known good signatures. These signatures will also need to be kept in case of lawsuirs/enforcement, so if somebody gets access they will know you visited that site
For example, imagine you put the same private key into the 'secure element' of every single iphone. You use code signing so that key is only unlocked when the phone is running unmodified iOS with all security updates. You use encryption and remote attestation for the front-facing camera and face id depth sensor. You use NFC to read government-authenticated age and appearance data from biometric passport chips (or digital ID cards) and you store it on-device.
Then, when you want to access pornhub, they send an age challenge to your device, your device makes sure your face matches the stored passport, and if so it signs the challenge with the private key.
Pornhub gets an Apple-signed attestation of age - but because every phone signs with challenges with the same private key, Pornhub can't link it to a particular phone or identity document.
So in a very narrow sense, privacy is preserved.
You can't use someone else's ID, as it checks your face every time. You can't fool it with a photo of the person because of the depth sensor. You can't MITM/replay the camera/depth data because the link is encrypted. You can't substitute software that skips the check with a rooted phone because of the code signing. Security holes can be closed by just pushing a mandatory OS update.
Sure, it doesn't work on PCs. Doesn't work on Linux, or on unlocked/rooted phones. It hands users' government ID documents over to Google and Apple. It requires people to carry foreign-made, battery powered, network connected GPS trackers (with cameras, microphones and speech recognition) with them. And there are non-negotiable terms of service everyone must agree to. But if you define "privacy-preserving" to ignore all that stuff and only consider whether Pornhub learns your identity, it's privacy-preserving.
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Stop visiting sites and using services that use reCAPTCHA. Problem solved.
That's great until it's some essential government, medical, educational, etc. service that you have either no alternative to or no alternative that isn't also using the same thing. I'm already being slowly and incrementally softlocked out of some (fortunately non-essential so far) sites either by cloudflare or other more subtle "anti-bot" networks as time goes on, including some like I've listed above. I can only exp…
As for now, when I need to travel to Germany, I just book tickets through the national carrier of my home country, which for cross-border tickets often turns out to actually be cheaper than booking through DB. Thankfully I don't live in Germany proper and my need for travel there is not that high (once or twice a year at most) but I wonder what would I do if I had to move to Germany and use trains there more often.