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Re: US Government releases first batch of UAP documents and videos

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Post by f33d5173 »

keepamovin wrote: post #423
krferriter wrote: post #412

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t cite the deep lore to me https://www.metabunk.org/threads/the-chandelier-ufo.13307/

Lol "deep lore" - what are you really some sort of priest on this topic? Ok, priest, what is your read of the bigger picture - not the narrow DoW released videos, but the larger context. Re the counterpost - i admit it's a good effort to match the graphics - but it still looks markedly different. Thermal overexposure seems less likely given paucity of other examples - what about active jamming? IR laser pointing? Hun…

The full quote is "don't cite the deep lore to me, I was there when it was written". The intention is to imply that he was there when the thread was created.

Re: US Government releases first batch of UAP documents and videos

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Post by hakrgrl »

andyjohnson0 wrote: post #226

So with The War having ground to an unsatisfactory halt, they're now releasing distraction #2. I wonder how many will be needed between now and November? Convince me I'm wrong.

The amount of coordination it takes to release these files, coupled with the incompetence of government.

The prosaic explanation is the more likely one, meaning the events are unrelated.

Re: US Government releases first batch of UAP documents and videos

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Post by krferriter »

keepamovin wrote: post #418
krferriter wrote: post #405

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Birds tend to be well insulated so when they fly at altitude in cold weather they don’t lose all their body heat. The color it appears on infrared footage depends on the other pixels in frame. It uses dynamic ranges to map infrared values to a visible light spectrum. If the rest of the frame was ice, or you were looking up into space, a bird would probably be rendered as very warm. If the rest of the frame is a warm…

Could you find some videos for those cases? Would be interesting to see this in action.

Convenient and good infrared video for all these scenarios is hard to come by but would be useful. I think if the DoD was willing to put some money into the budget for practical recreations of UAP scenarios that they then make public, they could do a lot of good. But there'd probably be pushback about wasting money and also risks of leaking information about military sensor capabilities.

But here is a paper showing penguins photographed with a temperature-sensing IR camera, showing the majority of the surface of their body being around -21ºC thanks to the highly insulating plumage.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3645025/

Re: US Government releases first batch of UAP documents and videos

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Post by wrqvrwvq »

civvv wrote: post #334
mrandish wrote: post #281

For anyone else who has a UFO-crazy uncle, I've found Mick West's YouTube channel to be invaluable https://www.youtube.com/c/mickwest . Mick is a retired video game programmer (Spider Man, Guitar Hero, Tony Hawk), who does extremely well-researched videos analyzing UFO claims. He's not flashy or trying to be entertaining, just thorough, evidence-based and scientifically rigorous. He'll even do controlled experiments,…

Three of my favourite game series as a kid, what a legend.

unc's thrashing out

Re: US Government releases first batch of UAP documents and videos

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Post by staplers »

hakrgrl wrote: post #453
andyjohnson0 wrote: post #226

So with The War having ground to an unsatisfactory halt, they're now releasing distraction #2. I wonder how many will be needed between now and November? Convince me I'm wrong.

The amount of coordination it takes to release these files, coupled with the incompetence of government. The prosaic explanation is the more likely one, meaning the events are unrelated.

You've mistaken indifference with inability. The government can absolutely get something done very quickly if certain people wish. There are numerous examples.

Re: US Government releases first batch of UAP documents and videos

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Post by mark336 »

Trump is trying to fool, he releases data without metadata and doesn't release info about government SAPs on UAPs. Like reverse engineering or biologics. Boring.

It's still funny that it took the President to release these pics and you all are like "its a bird".

Re: US Government releases first batch of UAP documents and videos

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Post by tsimionescu »

cubefox wrote: post #399
foltik wrote: post #361

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a “category of claims” has shared causal structure, then the category’s track record absolutely does tell you something about the next claim in it. It’s not arbitrary. Alien UFOs, Chem-Trails, and Flat Earth are obviously all generated from the same distribution of bullshit: ambiguous or misunderstood phenomena explained by positing a vast hidden conspiracy.

What about Avi Loeb's theory that 'Oumuamua is an UFO with a solar sail, which would explain its apparently unusually flat pancake-like shape?

That's an example of ambiguous or misunderstood phenomena explained by a professor who decided that there's more money in UFO BS than in his previous career (or sincerely lost his grip on reality, who knows).

Re: US Government releases first batch of UAP documents and videos

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Post by marshray »

hakrgrl wrote: post #450
keepamovin wrote: post #424

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK - this needs some good examples :)

Galileo's heliocentric model Hand washing prevents illness COVID came from a lab, not a wet market Hunter Biden laptop was real And then a counter example of something broadly accepted but untrue. The humoral theory and blood letting, practiced for thousands of years. This is what killed George Washington.

> Galileo's heliocentric model

Copernicus, but "close enough".

Yep. The planets do not, in fact, revolve around the Sun. They revolve around the solar system center of mass (barycenter). This is an error of about 0.25 degree viewed from Earth which was significant at the time.

> Hand washing prevents illness

Did the person who we credit for hand washing advocate for it because he was "crazy", or because he had a well-founded theory?

> COVID came from a lab, not a wet market

The lab-leak theory has not held up to scrutiny. It is considered refuted. Though IMO the initial backlash was excessive.

> Hunter Biden laptop was real

No one outside of politics said the laptop "wasn't real", many emails were cryptographically authenticated very early on. There was a great deal of concern by experts that a coordinated disinfo op was being played into the election. It was, though probably not with the involvement of foreign actors this time. Nothing about that laptop ended up being relevant to the Presidential candidate actually running for election.

> And then a counter example of something broadly accepted but untrue. The humoral theory and blood letting, practiced for thousands of years. This is what killed George Washington.

We're talking about examples of things a "crazy uncle" might believe that turned out to be true. These are just abandoned pre-scientific medical theories and treatments.

Re: US Government releases first batch of UAP documents and videos

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Post by cookiengineer »

tootie wrote: post #273
krferriter wrote: post #220

Several of these look like balloons and birds. Two of them have already leaked before. Both of those are missiles being viewed with an infrared camera. One of them shows a missile passing through the field of view rapidly with a motion blur streak behind it. The other shows a missile performing maneuvers and a camera artifact showing a star-like diffraction+aperture artifact around the bright IR light source. None of…

Of course, everything is just something boring. The chances of us espying extraterrestrials in our atmosphere by chance are essentially nil. People looking for secret photos and buried evidence will absolutely positively never find it. People inside the DoD are just as crazy and irrational as the general public if not moreso. If a flying saucer lands in your front yard and little green men come out and say "take me t…

I mean, there is still people who think that a UFO was sighted in Roswell at the radar testing site of Area 51.

Imagine that, 70ish years later there is people that cannot grasp how modern the A-12 prototype was. [1]

In my opinion the US has a real scientific education problem. So much so that people still think that alien life that built machines so advanced that they can bridge distances over lightyears travel time... just the belief that they will remotely resemble our appearance anyhow is statistically so close to 0 that I have no words to express how unlikely it is to happen. You have a greater chance getting hit every millisecond of your life by a lightning strike than this being the case.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_A-12

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