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US Government releases first batch of UAP documents and videos
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#442Cost of living is high? Err... Look over there! Aliens!
Is that like "Inflation is transitory" or my favorite "Crime not up, crime down."
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#443Earlier quoted context omitted.
The distraction is not releasing them. If there was enough shit in the files for a conviction, the previous administration would have prosecuted. They were sealed from the public not from the DOJ. The reality is that there's no shortage of dirt in them (that likely doesn't pile up to guilt beyond a reasonable doubt), but his base doesn't care, and will never care.
There's likely enough for more convictions, but two things: 1) Maxwell was under prosecution at the time, so some of it was related to that. 2) The kind of people being mentioned as potential indictees are the kind who can do something about it.
Co-conspirators are prosecuted in parallel or semi-parallel all the time, without waiting for the core prosecution to conclude.
There was no reason for why the administration had to wait for the files to be unsealed to go after anyone it wanted to. Unsealing them only makes the records available to the public at large, not the rest of the DOJ.
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#444Earlier quoted context omitted.
If a “category of claims” has shared causal structure, then the category’s track record absolutely does tell you something about the next claim in it. It’s not arbitrary. Alien UFOs, Chem-Trails, and Flat Earth are obviously all generated from the same distribution of bullshit: ambiguous or misunderstood phenomena explained by positing a vast hidden conspiracy.
Every person on Earth could agree that Earth is flat and it wouldn't affect the reality of whether or not extraterrestrials visit earth even a little bit.
The shared causal structure is the absence of facts and denial of science. Nearly every religion on earth also suffers from that in their gospel, where many fictitious and supernatural phenomena are bundled together and sold for truth.
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#445I'll repost what I said in the other thread since this has more legs as a discussion: Honestly, what difference does it make? Unless Lrrr, Ruler of Omicron Perseii 8, lands a saucer on the White House lawn tomorrow and announces he's the new ruler of Earth, all of this means nothing. I still have to go to work, I still can't buy a house without going into unreasonable financial risk, gas will still be creeping up to…
I have to agree with the sibling comment. I don't think there are aliens in the universe or the galaxy but don't you think if there was some clear evidence that they exist and that we are not alone in the universe wouldn't just be massive news? You're talking about some practical concerns and I get it but you're still living better than 90% of people on Earth even with $5/gal gas ... if you have a job that is potentially being replaced by AI, I would assume an extra 2 dollars per gallon, let's call it $40-$80 a month, is that really breaking the bank here? Also, the potential of extra-terrestrial life vs the Epstein files that apparently nobody cared about under Biden, really?
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#446Earlier quoted context omitted.
Being "crazy" and later turning ought to be "right" are not exclusive. One can be right for bad reasons.
OK - this needs some good examples :)
People who believe in "chemtrails" are (in my un-scientific survey) pretty likely to be conspiracy enthusiasts ("cranks", "crazy", etc.).
But they're not wrong that the stuff coming out of the back of jet aircraft is changing the climate.
Small, localized weather engineering programs have long been real (cloud seeding), and planetary-scale climate engineering projects are now openly discussed by governments. E.g. https://www.epa.gov/geoengineering/about-geoengineering "Types of solar geoengineering techniques include: Stratospheric Aerosol Injection (SAI) – adding small reflective particles to the upper atmosphere (stratosphere) to reflect incoming sunlight. Sulfur dioxide (SO2), one of the types of chemicals considered for SAI, can chemically react in the stratosphere to form reflective sulfate aerosols."
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#447Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, surprising in a "I can't believe this is happening" way, not in a "this was unexpected" way. He made his campaign on ending everything. Diving headfirst into the first conflict he could with 0 understanding is the most expected thing that could've happened.
Americans consistently vote for less war and they consistently get more war. If they voted for more war I’m pretty sure they would still get more war. I think blaming the American public for these wars is a deflection from the actual mechanisms that instigate them. We are more governed by blackmail than we are by voters. I do wish there was even more resistance though, war has been effectively pitched as costless or…
> I think blaming the American public for these wars is a deflection
Where did I do that? There's no one to vote for that doesn't wage war.
But to say voting for Trump was voting for less war is plain ridiculous. You'd have to ignore his entire career. He is famously fickle, is not shy about lying, and abandons friends at the soonest opportunity. A rational person hearing him say "I will end the Ukraine war on day 1" would understand he's saying whatever he thinks sounds good.
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#448Several of these look like balloons and birds. Two of them have already leaked before. Both of those are missiles being viewed with an infrared camera. One of them shows a missile passing through the field of view rapidly with a motion blur streak behind it. The other shows a missile performing maneuvers and a camera artifact showing a star-like diffraction+aperture artifact around the bright IR light source. None of…
What kind of birds are cold in black-hot imagery? What sort of missiles don't have an exhaust but a "ghost shell" trailing behind? What sort of balloons show up as contrast instead of neutral? Your comment is all certainty, and the thread has rewarded that. People are seeking definite answers - seems proportional to the uncertainty they sense. Do you really feel qualified to provide that? Seems a big responsibility t…
This is one of those things where an objective person shouldn't start out with a completely neutral attitude. Have you ever heard that phrase "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"?
For example, If I take a blurry photo of something I see outside on a full moon that's probably a raccoon and proclaim its a photo of the elder god Nug, spawn of Azathoth, the Lord of All Things, and someone points out that its probably a raccoon but the photo is so bad there's really no way to ever tell the right attitude isn't to say:
"It can be compelling and attractive to fill the silence or the unknown with an invention of certainty - sort of like a prophet or shepheard - but the edge of known demands more curiosity and wonder for an honest approach."
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#449Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn8e2kvzen7o
Those were released and have nothing implicating Trump. In fact, can you point to anything that has implicated Trump in wrong doing?
Sorry, did you forget the comment chain you were commenting on? This wasn't about files that were currently unreleased, it was discussing why Biden didn't release them during his presidency.
As far as Trump goes, yes, he's implicated all over the files. A simple search on any search engine will find plenty of examples for you.
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#450Earlier quoted context omitted.
Being "crazy" and later turning ought to be "right" are not exclusive. One can be right for bad reasons.
OK - this needs some good examples :)
Galileo's heliocentric model
Hand washing prevents illness
COVID came from a lab, not a wet market
Hunter Biden laptop was real
And then a counter example of something broadly accepted but untrue. The humoral theory and blood letting, practiced for thousands of years. This is what killed George Washington.