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Neat, thanks for sharing! I suppose drones are the most likely explanation?

So this is central New Jersey. And yes they could be literally anything except helicopters or airplanes. I know what those are. I feel thankful whenever I get to see them though. Just bizarre and different. Hope I get to see them again soon.

If you have good zoom binoculars or a zoom monocular, and a bit of practice, you can zoom in if you can hold it very steady, such at a window sill or against the window itself.

Re: US Government releases first batch of UAP documents and videos

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You are vastly overestimating how much analytical work gets put into investigating the original context and flight modeling for videos like these before they are released. The UAP Task Force did a presentation to Congress in which the head of the office showed a frame of the now-viral “green triangles” UFO video filmed with night vision camera on the deck of a US Navy vessel. The UAP Task Force was staffed with UFO b…

You are discussing IAP/IFOs. That's good they were able to identify light and released videos of it. And yeah I get why conspiracy theories of military parabnormal cabals is exciting, but also beside the point. This is about UFOs/UAP and not about whether AARO can identify light but whether the US combatant commands, the alphabet agencies, and the White House together can.

You are not getting the point here. Cases get talked about as UAP cases merely because they were initially catalogued as unidentified and have not yet had a conclusive resolution attached to them. It doesn't mean they are not resolvable. It just means it hasn't happened yet. It also doesn't mean that a ton of qualified people with access to all the appropriate information have put in deep investigative work into trying to figure out what it is. You are just assuming that anything released that is not resolved has to have gone through intense rigorous investigation, such that it means there is no known explanation for it, therefore it must be something truly anomalous. This is not how it works.

The UAP Task Force in the example I described above actually did so some analysis on the "green triangle" Navy UFO video but they still failed to identify the fact that their screengrab they presented to Congress was literally just stars with a bokeh artifact making them appear as triangles.

Re: US Government releases first batch of UAP documents and videos

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Being "crazy" and later turning ought to be "right" are not exclusive. One can be right for bad reasons.

OK - this needs some good examples :)

Justified, true beliefs: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/knowledge-analysis/#KnowJ...

Re: US Government releases first batch of UAP documents and videos

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Don’t cite the deep lore to me https://www.metabunk.org/threads/the-chandelier-ufo.13307/

Lol "deep lore" - what are you really some sort of priest on this topic? Ok, priest, what is your read of the bigger picture - not the narrow DoW released videos, but the larger context. Re the counterpost - i admit it's a good effort to match the graphics - but it still looks markedly different. Thermal overexposure seems less likely given paucity of other examples - what about active jamming? IR laser pointing? Hun…

It was just a joke. You linked a thread about one particular camera artifact but missed the fact that there was another thread about this specific case. I've read all of those threads.

There's not really much ambiguity here regarding these factors now:

- it's a small bright infrared light source attached to a parachute

- the star shape is a camera artifact

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Conspicuously missing in your argument is a link to a credible source with any evidence (or even 1st person testimony). It should be easy. Instead, I just see elaborate narratives about political motivations and garbage evidence like that laughably low-effort fake video presented in Congress by Representatives.

Lol, what? Reads as zany non-sequitur in context - did you reply right? Your frame that any timing of this drop is disputed and requires evidence, I reject. If you say precisely which phrases you felt that about, your comment might be better.

Oh, you were joking?

Sorry, I encounter someone who believes exactly what you wrote at least once a week.

Re: US Government releases first batch of UAP documents and videos

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You are discussing IAP/IFOs. That's good they were able to identify light and released videos of it. And yeah I get why conspiracy theories of military parabnormal cabals is exciting, but also beside the point. This is about UFOs/UAP and not about whether AARO can identify light but whether the US combatant commands, the alphabet agencies, and the White House together can.

You are not getting the point here. Cases get talked about as UAP cases merely because they were initially catalogued as unidentified and have not yet had a conclusive resolution attached to them. It doesn't mean they are not resolvable. It just means it hasn't happened yet. It also doesn't mean that a ton of qualified people with access to all the appropriate information have put in deep investigative work into tryi…

I believe your point is that, despite the resources thrown at the instant situation, you are admitting they are not resolved as of now, but the resolution will happen and be benign.

> assuming that anything released that is not resolved has to have gone through intense rigorous investigation, such that it means there is no known explanation for it

Yes.

> therefore it must be something truly anomalous

No, that is false. You are missing my point that, in the instant cases, presuming your point is true, is that this is a failure of the combined capacity of the US government. Nothing to do with cabals or aliens. Those are particular to your arguments.

Assuming your argument is true, my argument is strengthened. My argument is what your argument implies but does not make explicit because it wants the argument to be about cabals and aliens.

Re: US Government releases first batch of UAP documents and videos

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Shades of late Soviet distractioneering, of the sort one would see in Pravda back in the day. Really disconcerting tbqh.

Why do so many of you think this is some big distraction campaign? They have talked about this kind of thing before and people then made distraction allegations. Is there really any "distracting" going on? I still liberals going on and on about the Epstein files that they didn't care about under Biden. I think they know Democrats are still going to be talking about that, and "de-colonizing," talking about kings and fascism and all that. I think the whole UFO business is silly but I struggle to see it as some big conspiracy to distract it's not like it ever makes much of a difference one way or the other.

Re: US Government releases first batch of UAP documents and videos

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"war.gov" -- give me a break. Are they going to try to executive-order a .war TLD to replace .mil next?

I agree with you. I think the whole "war department" thing is pretty stupid and kind of archaic terminology at this point. I get sort of the intention. Under Biden's we had recruiting campaign's like "Emma's Two Mom's," which was just insanity but this rebranding dumb.
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