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US Government releases first batch of UAP documents and videos
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That's interesting but that's not what this video is. The star shape in the DoD video is a camera artifact. Just a really bright source of infrared light.
It doesn't look like artifacts look: https://www.metabunk.org/threads/a-gimbal-glare-explainer.12... tho it still might be. This theory is the one of yours least easily dismissed, but requires further evidence to be more convincing, I believe.
Don’t cite the deep lore to me
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> balloons and birds > missiles > diffraction+aperture artifact Uh if the US military cannot identify birds, balloons, light, and more importantly missiles after thorough cross-agency review, I think you're not seeing the forest for the trees.
This is not about “the US military cannot identify”. These case reports happen often because one person filmed something and perhaps that one person didn’t know what it was. The video then gets saved and catalogued as unidentified. The video is then so lacking in information and context that it is literally impossible for people to later figure out exactly what object it was. AARO (and before them the UAP Task Force)…
No, these releases are UFOs as of now, after extensive cross-agency review. Your premise of "one person didn’t know what it was" is demonstrably false. This is not a release of identified anomalous phenomena or IAP or IFOs.
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This is not about “the US military cannot identify”. These case reports happen often because one person filmed something and perhaps that one person didn’t know what it was. The video then gets saved and catalogued as unidentified. The video is then so lacking in information and context that it is literally impossible for people to later figure out exactly what object it was. AARO (and before them the UAP Task Force)…
No, these releases are UFOs as of now, after extensive cross-agency review. Your premise of "one person didn’t know what it was" is demonstrably false. This is not a release of identified anomalous phenomena or IAP or IFOs.
You are vastly overestimating how much analytical work gets put into investigating the original context and flight modeling for videos like these before they are released.
The UAP Task Force did a presentation to Congress in which the head of the office showed a frame of the now-viral “green triangles” UFO video filmed with night vision camera on the deck of a US Navy vessel. The UAP Task Force was staffed with UFO believers and they believed the green triangles shown in the sky were pyramid shaped aircraft. They failed to realize the triangles were merely an artifact of the focus and the triangle shaped camera aperture and that in that frame of video, all of the triangles were known bright stars in that region of sky at that time of year. They could have figured all this out. People on the ship that day would of course know that those points of light in the sky were stars, and that the triangles in the video were just camera artifacts, not in the real world. But years later, the UAP Task Force looked at the video, and didn’t know that.
AARO has been doing a better analytical job than the UAP Task Force did. They fired everyone and hired people who weren’t predisposed to paranormal beliefs. (Jay Stratton staffed the UAP Task Force with people he knew would help bolster his preexisting paranormal beliefs). But this latest data dump was not done because AARO had finished evaluating these cases and done extensive work to narrow down possibilities. This data dump (and the ones coming next) was forced on an accelerated timeline by a handful of paranormal activists in Congress who just like the media attention and want to promote all kinds of fringe religious and paranormal ideas.
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#415Several of these look like balloons and birds. Two of them have already leaked before. Both of those are missiles being viewed with an infrared camera. One of them shows a missile passing through the field of view rapidly with a motion blur streak behind it. The other shows a missile performing maneuvers and a camera artifact showing a star-like diffraction+aperture artifact around the bright IR light source. None of…
Of course, everything is just something boring. The chances of us espying extraterrestrials in our atmosphere by chance are essentially nil. People looking for secret photos and buried evidence will absolutely positively never find it. People inside the DoD are just as crazy and irrational as the general public if not moreso. If a flying saucer lands in your front yard and little green men come out and say "take me t…
If we are being visited we would never see them unless they decided to show themselves, and if they did it would be absolutely unambiguous.
Someone with the tech to travel the stars (or something weirder like between dimensions) could make probes the size of bugs, sand, or dust. They could also image us at incredible resolution from afar, receive all our signals, and so on. They might be able to do even weirder and crazier forms of surveillance we don’t even understand yet, like high resolution imaging with neutrinos or gravity waves.
They could study us all they wanted and we’d never know.
Look into how advanced some of our spy tech is, and we have barely left our planet.
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They will never release them. The distraction will morph into all the electoral subterfuge they will attempt as they increasingly fear losing power at the polls. They know what's in those files and what will happen to them if they lose in 2028. Thus they will be even more incentivized to behave badly. If gas prices double from here it will be less stupid distraction and more overt authoritarianism... the ICE question…
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There is such a thing as "naive cynicism"
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Conspicuously missing in your argument is a link to a credible source with any evidence (or even 1st person testimony). It should be easy. Instead, I just see elaborate narratives about political motivations and garbage evidence like that laughably low-effort fake video presented in Congress by Representatives.
Lol, what? Reads as zany non-sequitur in context - did you reply right? Your frame that any timing of this drop is disputed and requires evidence, I reject. If you say precisely which phrases you felt that about, your comment might be better.
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What kind of birds are cold in black-hot imagery? What sort of missiles don't have an exhaust but a "ghost shell" trailing behind? What sort of balloons show up as contrast instead of neutral? Your comment is all certainty, and the thread has rewarded that. People are seeking definite answers - seems proportional to the uncertainty they sense. Do you really feel qualified to provide that? Seems a big responsibility t…
Birds tend to be well insulated so when they fly at altitude in cold weather they don’t lose all their body heat. The color it appears on infrared footage depends on the other pixels in frame. It uses dynamic ranges to map infrared values to a visible light spectrum. If the rest of the frame was ice, or you were looking up into space, a bird would probably be rendered as very warm. If the rest of the frame is a warm…
Could you find some videos for those cases? Would be interesting to see this in action.
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Okay here we go. I think this was two winters ago. They floated, sometimes would briefly hold position. Third time in the past decade I encountered them. I pulled to the side of the road. Nobody else pulled over or noticed. Encounter lasted maybe 5 minutes. I honestly don't remember. https://files.catbox.moe/05tysy.jpg https://files.catbox.moe/g46n6f.jpg https://files.catbox.moe/xz7bux.jpg
Neat, thanks for sharing! I suppose drones are the most likely explanation?
So this is central New Jersey. And yes they could be literally anything except helicopters or airplanes. I know what those are.
I feel thankful whenever I get to see them though. Just bizarre and different. Hope I get to see them again soon.
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What kind of birds are cold in black-hot imagery? What sort of missiles don't have an exhaust but a "ghost shell" trailing behind? What sort of balloons show up as contrast instead of neutral? Your comment is all certainty, and the thread has rewarded that. People are seeking definite answers - seems proportional to the uncertainty they sense. Do you really feel qualified to provide that? Seems a big responsibility t…
>> What kind of birds are cold in black-hot imagery? What sort of missiles don't have an exhaust but a "ghost shell" trailing behind? IR imagery can be flipped between black=hot or white=hot. These systems are about creating contrast to aid visualization, not recording scientific data. >> What sort of balloons show up as contrast instead of neutral? A hot air balloon? Any balloon that has recently changed altitude? A…
Right - but the white dots I was referring to were shown on black hot imagery calibrated by "streetlights are black hot", "car engine are black hot".