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Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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The domain in the attestation would be yours, so that wouldn't work

How would the phone camera know the domain name of the website displaying the QR code it's scanning?

After you scan the code, the verification app asks you "do you want to verify for example.com?"

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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archive.is just asked me for a QRcode scan, I'm so ashame of that crap (it's behind Cloudflare) , forcing website visitors to KYC? Are you guys insane!? the web is ruined if you push for this, this is millions of websites that will suddenly force KYC? What...the...f https://ibb.co/X9Q6Y84 By KYC, obviously it's because there is very few non-criminal ways to have a SIM without KYC and get a Google account for Playstor…

What? Don't Cloudflare literally have their own CAPTCHA service? Why are they using reCAPTCHA?

They mimic the cloudflare captcha page but they're not hosted by cloudflare.

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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I don't know why reclaimthenet hasn't embraced the obvious answer: Simply create a new smart device operating system with a fully disentangled cosmos of programs, libraries, APIs, app SDKs, hardware partners, drivers, trust networks, carrier agreements, app stores, documentation, conferences...

and that is gonna be funded by who? anyone who is gonna fund that is gonna want their slice of the pie. we need regulation to keep big tech in line

Parent is sarcastic

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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I have a good friend who doesn't own a cell phone. He's a math professor. Every year he keeps living life without a smartphone, I continue to be more impressed. Things like this makes me feel like he might have to eventually give in. https://archive.is is now serving, via Cloudflare, this QR code backed CAPTCHAs. There seems no way to get past them without a smartphone. Sad times. I wonder at what point even basic go…

> https://archive.is is now serving, via Cloudflare

It looks like a cloudflare page but it's not hosted by them. eg. https://bgp.he.net/dns/archive.is#_ipinfo It's hosted by AS49505 JSC Selectel

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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I've kept a spare cheap android for too long and recently went with Graphene instead. I have one Google profile and only use it for Uber, work's Google Chat and maps. One bank refused to work (even with Google services) so I moved bank. I've moved most of my mobile use to self hosted (freshrss full text, password manager, calendar, tasks) with no direct internet connection. It's a bit irritating but I'm glad I starte…

What's the best alternative for Google drive? I also went this route but Samba is a bit annoying sometimes

What makes Samba annoying? I think it's perfect for its intended use (LAN).

If you need to share files externally, Nextcloud works very much like Google Drive and allows the creation of sharable links.

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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A parallel, fully public and accessible internet being widespread and available for anyone with a slight tinkering kick... Could actually be really awesome. Let the commerce-driven, corporatized hellhole that the modern web has become eat itself.

I love the vision, but I do wonder how the parallel internet will deal with DDoS levels of bot traffic. I hear ‘web of trust’ pretty often and I like the idea but that’s not anonymous or accessible either

> I love the vision, but I do wonder how the parallel internet will deal with DDoS levels of bot traffic.

Something that makes it expensive to initiate a connection and cheap (relatively) to accept or reject would probably help. I think that’s a hard problem though.

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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post #106

I've kept a spare cheap android for too long and recently went with Graphene instead. I have one Google profile and only use it for Uber, work's Google Chat and maps. One bank refused to work (even with Google services) so I moved bank. I've moved most of my mobile use to self hosted (freshrss full text, password manager, calendar, tasks) with no direct internet connection. It's a bit irritating but I'm glad I starte…

If you don't mind me asking, what Bank? I've resolved that this phone will be my last googled phone, and my next will be GrapheneOS.

Not OP, but I've been on GrapheneOS for a few years and I have no problem with Chase, CiT or Wealthfront. I mostly use them to check balances and unlock debit cards, but they all login and function fine.

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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At least with an Android i have the option of Graphene, and have access to a terminal, and for now can sideload apps. With apple there's no choices, so I'll continue to take my chances with Android

Possibly... but the extension of this to Android and Apple is going to be the entire internet shuts you out. And everything else will be a giant Dead Internet crawling with bots.

The sites that require you to log in are precisely the same ones that are crawling with bots. The personal internet or "small web" is, and still will be, full of real content. There are also lots of bot websites that are trying to be small web, but since it's an actual social network and not a giant pool everyone pours stuff into, they don't get traction. If you do find a website that seems to be human but links to a thousand AIslop sites, you'll stop following that guy's links.

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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To be fair, there are already apps that require a mobile phone to sign up, for example, VK, Telegram. And I think Google requires to scan a QR code to register account, so it is easier just to buy a Google account on a black market if you need it for some purpose. Nobody trusts web browsers nowadays.

I think you and I move in very different social circles... I would have no idea how, nor desire to purchase a Google account on the black market, and I do in fact still trust that my web browser can do TLS correctly.

I think you can just search 'buy google account' - it isn't illegal.

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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post #106

I've kept a spare cheap android for too long and recently went with Graphene instead. I have one Google profile and only use it for Uber, work's Google Chat and maps. One bank refused to work (even with Google services) so I moved bank. I've moved most of my mobile use to self hosted (freshrss full text, password manager, calendar, tasks) with no direct internet connection. It's a bit irritating but I'm glad I starte…

My setup is similar and nearly 100% self-hosted, including email, files, AI. If something does not work on Graphene, I will do without it. I also have a Google profile, mostly for testing purposes.
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