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Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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Post by gonzalohm »

dwedge wrote: post #106

I've kept a spare cheap android for too long and recently went with Graphene instead. I have one Google profile and only use it for Uber, work's Google Chat and maps. One bank refused to work (even with Google services) so I moved bank. I've moved most of my mobile use to self hosted (freshrss full text, password manager, calendar, tasks) with no direct internet connection. It's a bit irritating but I'm glad I starte…

What's the best alternative for Google drive? I also went this route but Samba is a bit annoying sometimes

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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Post by cyklosarin »

buzzwords wrote: post #91

Given the way Google is going I'm not sure if my next phone will be Android. I am fully aware that I am probably in the minority here. For me the trust is entirely gone.

Motorola + GrapheneOS next year could be an alternative. So far they've been relatively insulated from the changes that have been coming down from Google.

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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Post by dwedge »

gonzalohm wrote: post #121
dwedge wrote: post #106

I've kept a spare cheap android for too long and recently went with Graphene instead. I have one Google profile and only use it for Uber, work's Google Chat and maps. One bank refused to work (even with Google services) so I moved bank. I've moved most of my mobile use to self hosted (freshrss full text, password manager, calendar, tasks) with no direct internet connection. It's a bit irritating but I'm glad I starte…

What's the best alternative for Google drive? I also went this route but Samba is a bit annoying sometimes

I only share with one person so we use Seafile

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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Post by drew870mitchell »

papercruncher wrote: post #90
tardedmeme wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With the new reCAPTCHA this is going to happen because most human visitors will actually be unable to pass the CAPTCHA. It will be interesting to see whether this makes websites ditch reCAPTCHA or whether they literally just don't care about having customers, an attitude that seems to be getting more and more common every day.

I have been unable to give my money to Home Depot, REI and a growing list of online retailers because they use Akamai EdgeSuite, which just assumes I am a bot and 403s on protected API calls. This happens consistently on any IP and any browser on my Linux desktop/laptop.

Same, i'm doing a kitchen reno and gave up on Home Depot because of this

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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Post by chadgpt2 »

fluidcruft wrote: post #94
buzzwords wrote: post #91

Given the way Google is going I'm not sure if my next phone will be Android. I am fully aware that I am probably in the minority here. For me the trust is entirely gone.

There really isn't much of an option. Apple's just as bad if not worse.

Both are terrible for privacy so it comes down to which one has a nicer screen now. :(

I'd rather have Google check an Apple phone attestation than have Google check a Google phone attestation, and vice versa, though, because you can assume each company is trying to keep as much information private to themselves instead of giving it to the other. Google is probably just getting "yes it's an Apple phone" and some kind of temporary token, instead of my IMEI, IMSI, phone number, all signed in accounts, biometrics and so on.

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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Post by chadgpt2 »

miladyincontrol wrote: post #54
ranger_danger wrote: post #3

Sites that use reCAPTCHA/Turnstile/etc. have already been broken for me for years now due to neverending captcha/refresh loops. My ISP regularly changes everyone's IP, and I apparently share an ISP with people who suck, so I get flagged just trying to do all sorts of normal things. Some examples: - I've never bought anything from Etsy but I'm somehow banned from even viewing their site at all. - Discord immediately b…

Almost would bet one or a few of your ISP's customers have their connections being used as residential VPNs. I know people like to think of suspicious android box setups but even a lot of "free" apps, extensions and other such services scarily seem to do that duty these days. I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here, but its sad how many people will use some free of cost vpn and not even think why that might be.

Honest question: Is there anything scary about this apart from lowering your ISP's reputation score?

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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Post by codedokode »

anonymousiam wrote: post #27
Jigsy wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sites that use reCAPTCHA/Turnstile/etc. have already been broken for me for years now due to neverending captcha/refresh loops. I had this problem recently with the Indeed website. (Cloudflare Captcha) Thanks to someone on Reddit, it was discovered that anyone using a Chromium based browser (Brave, Vivaldi, etc.) on Linux was being punished. Awfully frustrating having to set up a Virtual Machine just to be able to…

Why not just change your user agent string?

Because the site can compare the user agent with navigator.platform, which your browser fills with great care.

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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Post by chadgpt2 »

spencerflem wrote: post #101
Andrex wrote: post #26

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A parallel, fully public and accessible internet being widespread and available for anyone with a slight tinkering kick... Could actually be really awesome. Let the commerce-driven, corporatized hellhole that the modern web has become eat itself.

I love the vision, but I do wonder how the parallel internet will deal with DDoS levels of bot traffic. I hear ‘web of trust’ pretty often and I like the idea but that’s not anonymous or accessible either

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Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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Post by somethingweird »

retired wrote: post #86
brikym wrote: post #58

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It's all fun until you can't get paid because some fintech app doesn't work. That's why we need regulations. I don't see politicians ever going against an advertising company when they're customers.

Already happening. The official German identification app, AusweisApp, is designed exclusively for Android and Apple mobile devices

No, you can also get it for Windows and Huawei devices. So three American and one Chinese companies. Great.

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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Post by queenkjuul »

fluidcruft wrote: post #94
buzzwords wrote: post #91

Given the way Google is going I'm not sure if my next phone will be Android. I am fully aware that I am probably in the minority here. For me the trust is entirely gone.

There really isn't much of an option. Apple's just as bad if not worse.

At least with an Android i have the option of Graphene, and have access to a terminal, and for now can sideload apps.

With apple there's no choices, so I'll continue to take my chances with Android

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