If there was any remaining doubt whether Google is evil, this settles that yes it is.
Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
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Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Stop visiting sites and using services that use reCAPTCHA. Problem solved.
Stop visiting sites and using services that use reCAPTCHA. Problem solved. No. Bigger problem created, since there are innumerable government, health care, and educational web sites that use reCAPTCHA. I'm not going to give up reading the test results from my doctor because of some simplistic ideologue decides that it's "problem solved."
I agree, and I think CAPTCHA is a disservice on public websites.
Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
#73I'm failing to see why they didn't just adopt Private Access Tokens (not that they're great either), where they could have at least: - pretended that it wasn't all about invading peoples' privacy. - done a good ol' fashioned "but Apple does it" - pretended to be standards-oriented - advertised it as something completely transparent to the end-user Seems like that would've caused a lot less backlash while still achiev…
It doesn't fundamentally solve anything. You want to be able to identify a specific person or at least a relatively expensive device so that if you ban them they stay banned.
Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
#74Please stop calling Android Linux. It's a marketing lie that continues to disappoint, including here. You're holding Linux back substantially by claiming Android is part of it. Just because it has Unix doesn't mean it's Linux as MacOS is also Unix.
Android literally is a Linux distro, though. Like, sure it has a weird userspace and is user hostile, but that doesn't make it not a Linux distro.
> ... and is user hostile,
How so?
Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's all fun until you can't get paid because some fintech app doesn't work. That's why we need regulations. I don't see politicians ever going against an advertising company when they're customers.
Indeed, I generally favor being conservative with regulations because they can genuinely impede progress and can be really hard to change or remove when they're bad, but this is an issue that we need regulation for. It's just too much in the interest of big tech to lock us down and strip us of our freedom of compute. Short of regulation. Unfortunately I see the regulatory environment more likely to go the other way o…
One unfortunate aspect of the entire problem: Go back, let's say 10, 15 or 20 years, when forces were a bit more balanced than today. When all these issues were already quite obvious, but probably somewhat easier to solve. The same people that cry loudly today were completely ignoring all these issues. Actively. And when someone came up with them, that guy was just an idi*t, disturbing the good mood. Right? I can still remember all the conversations that I had, or that I read. Today, they'll deny that and still call me an idiot. Anyways...
PS: Sure, there always were a handful of exceptions. If you are one of them, you know what I'm talking about. I don't refer to you. But to the other 99.x%.
Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
#76Please stop calling Android Linux. It's a marketing lie that continues to disappoint, including here. You're holding Linux back substantially by claiming Android is part of it. Just because it has Unix doesn't mean it's Linux as MacOS is also Unix.
Android literally is a Linux distro, though. Like, sure it has a weird userspace and is user hostile, but that doesn't make it not a Linux distro.
linux is a choice, this is not a choice. fairly confident people are rejecting this notion on ideological grounds
Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
#77This is crossing the line where the governments should step in and ban/fine google heavilly for this monopol behavior
I agree. There are pretty clear grounds here to think about opening an investigation here into illegal tying, or a misuse of market power. Not sure if the FTC maintains a presence on here, but if you're listening...
Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
The kernel is a Linux kernel. The userspace is very different from a typical Linux distribution.
A fork of it, updated periodically And let's not pretend that we mean the kernel when we say Linux distribution
Debian also uses a fork that is updated periodically.
Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's all fun until you can't get paid because some fintech app doesn't work. That's why we need regulations. I don't see politicians ever going against an advertising company when they're customers.
Indeed, I generally favor being conservative with regulations because they can genuinely impede progress and can be really hard to change or remove when they're bad, but this is an issue that we need regulation for. It's just too much in the interest of big tech to lock us down and strip us of our freedom of compute. Short of regulation. Unfortunately I see the regulatory environment more likely to go the other way o…
An easy first step ahead of a full ban would be insisting that hardware attestation never be used as a gate to access government services. Most other things I can vote with my feet, but viewing my tax returns or renewing my passport are things that can only happen in one place.
Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
#80archive.is just asked me for a QRcode scan, I'm so ashame of that crap (it's behind Cloudflare), forcing website visitors to KYC? Are you guys insane!?
the web is ruined if you push for this, this is millions of websites that will suddenly force KYC? What...the...f
By KYC, obviously it's because there is very few non-criminal ways to have a SIM without KYC and get a Google account for Playstore without a number, so every website visits will be attached to a real ID.
I don't use a stock Android, right now I literally can't access many websites, this is genuinely crazy.