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Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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Re: Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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Post by Tanoc »

whatevaa wrote: post #212
Tanoc wrote: post #126

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Some cars are going with entirely electrically actuated brakes, either inboard on on-hub, compared to the E-Tron which uses traditional hydraulically actuated brakes. One uses an electric motor to wind something to tighten the spring clip by pulling it that then pushes the pads to the rotor and the other uses pressure to overcome the spring by pushing the spring to compress it and push the pads to the rotor. I'm gues…

Are talking about brake-by-wire? Where brakes are controlled by electric only, and if electrics die, no brakes? These are dangerous. Cars are not maintained to aircraft standards and will never be.

With electrically actuated brakes the default power off state is fully engaged. Meaning if the power dies the brakes lock up. That causes it's own issues, obviously, but a sudden deceleration is better than no deceleration at most road speeds.

edit: as formerlyproven below states, the ones currently for sale also have a hydraulic backup.

Re: Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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Post by Doxin »

Robdel12 wrote: post #95

Cheap ass studs, not surprised. Don’t tow with a cybertruck either, you can literally total it by ripping the frame out with the hitch. It’s the most poorly engineered “truck” there is. Can’t tow. Can’t haul (stupid bed design). It’s just a glorified pavement machine.

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Re: Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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Post by alooPotato »

gamblor956 wrote: post #230
alooPotato wrote: post #153

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Dang you nailed my profile perfect. I bought one and its the best car I've ever had. Event though I was never a "truck" buyer it checked off all my needs: - space for wife, car seats + another adult when needed - haul around my kids, 4 bikes, skis, camping gear, etc. - drives itself - we do a ton of road trips - luxury - electric, tired of going to gas stations Wasn't another car on the market that checked those boxe…

A Cybertruck cannot physically fit 4 bikes, and the truck bed is not long enough to fit skis or snowboards. When I go biking and snowboarding with my idiot friend that owns a Cybertruck, we have to use my Outback to haul the gear because it won't fit in his lemon.

yes it does. i do it. as do surfboards. you just toss it all in the back and let shit hang out.

Re: Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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Post by alooPotato »

mrguyorama wrote: post #227
alooPotato wrote: post #200

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can't fit 4 bikes in a minivan . on my previous SUV I had a rear rack and its such a PITA

You cannot be serious. It was trivial to do this back before foldable seats were standard. You can fit at least two bikes in just the shitty "trunk" space of your average minivan. Every van ever made has more cargo space than the Cybertruck.

maybe this is an HN thing, but how would you bring your kids/wife and 4 bikes inside a minivan?

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Post by cucumber3732842 »

saalweachter wrote: post #102
sunshinesnacks wrote: post #49

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> AWD doesn't help you stop in bad weather I frequently think about this when weather gets bad! I already have AWB (all wheel braking?). Seems like AWD could make it too easy to get in a situation where my AWB isn’t sufficient to stop

Snow tires, people! Snow tires! A FWD vehicle with snow tires is frequently better in the snow than an AWD without snow tires. Better control, better stopping, better uphill on snowy roads.

>A FWD vehicle with snow tires is frequently better in the snow than an AWD without snow tires. Better control, better stopping, better uphill on snowy roads.

Control and stopping of course, but I'd love to see the justification behind "better uphill"

Napkin math says that doubling the contact patch over which the motive force applies still wins because snow tires aren't going to double your friction coefficient. And this is before you consider unloading of the front suspension on a hill (though for most grades it's still probably got more weight than the rear of RWD).

Furthermore, this seems to be corroborated by reality. People in snowy climates tend to go AWD rather than snow tires and snow tire makers typically advertise by comparing stopping/handling rather than acceleration.

Re: Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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Post by alooPotato »

xerox13ster wrote: post #216
alooPotato wrote: post #153

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Dang you nailed my profile perfect. I bought one and its the best car I've ever had. Event though I was never a "truck" buyer it checked off all my needs: - space for wife, car seats + another adult when needed - haul around my kids, 4 bikes, skis, camping gear, etc. - drives itself - we do a ton of road trips - luxury - electric, tired of going to gas stations Wasn't another car on the market that checked those boxe…

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Have you ridden in a cybertruck?

I've owned several luxury SUVs (volvo, mercedes), a porsche 911 and an s class (admittedly a while ago). The cybertruck to me feels in the same league. I know older/cheaper teslas might not be the same but try the Cybertruck - I think you'd be surprised. Its very comfortable.

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Post by stasomatic »

alooPotato wrote: post #153
washingupliquid wrote: post #138

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Dang you nailed my profile perfect. I bought one and its the best car I've ever had. Event though I was never a "truck" buyer it checked off all my needs: - space for wife, car seats + another adult when needed - haul around my kids, 4 bikes, skis, camping gear, etc. - drives itself - we do a ton of road trips - luxury - electric, tired of going to gas stations Wasn't another car on the market that checked those boxe…

The only ones I see in my zip code in Miami-Dade/Broward are (mostly) Russians who aspire to a Kardashian tank, a.k.a G-Wagon. The other ones are wrapped in "re-fi your mortgage" type of nastiness. I am terrified when I am next to one in a car or on a bike (because I know "my people").

I am not a Tesla the car hater, if only this monstrosity wasn't all sharp angles, otherwise to each their own.

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Post by Freedom2 »

alooPotato wrote: post #256
xerox13ster wrote: post #216

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Have you ridden in a cybertruck? I've owned several luxury SUVs (volvo, mercedes), a porsche 911 and an s class (admittedly a while ago). The cybertruck to me feels in the same league. I know older/cheaper teslas might not be the same but try the Cybertruck - I think you'd be surprised. Its very comfortable.

I currently own 5 luxury vehicles and have ridden in a Cybertruck, and the Cybertruck is so far below in terms of quality it makes me question what luxury features you see in it.

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Post by hereme888 »

dlev_pika wrote: post #165
hereme888 wrote: post #161

All 173 RWD Long Range Cybertrucks have a defect that may potentially lead to wheel separation. No crashes, injuries or fatalities have occurred. Much bigger recalls from other auto-makers in the past: Toyota: 8-9 million worldwide recalled for "sticking" accelerator pedals and floor mats that would trap pedals, and a $1.2B DOJ penalty. Kia 2015: also sticky pedals in various models. Ford (1970's): 1.5 million vehicl…

Are you comparing Toyota’s reliability and recall record to Tesla’s Cybertruck? Lmao

Did you just compare a manufacturer to a specific model from a new-ish company and then laugh?

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Post by rpdillon »

wesleyd wrote: post #147
rpdillon wrote: post #50

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This has been a question the Slate team has been trying to answer. They claim the weight distribution being more even front-to-back (batteries offsetting motor, I presume), but I don't know whether I believe them. I was interested in a Slate, but the changes at the company lately (new CEO from McKinsey, rather than an engineer), along with decisions like RWD, and the anemic acceleration (0-60 in 8 seconds) gives me p…

Oh man, I love that we live in a world where an eight second 0-60 is considered anemic! For a truck! (Not digging at you, I feel the same way you do. I just think it’s weird and amazing!)

My old car is a Honda Civic hybrid from 2008. Your comment sent me checking out the current Civic (ICE) performance, and it's also eight seconds! So I see your point, I guess my expectations have changed since EVs came on the scene.
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