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Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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Re: Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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F150 Lightning checked all those boxes and also isn’t a complete piece of shit that sheds parts on the road.

As an owner of the f150 lightning, I get a chuckle whenever SpaceX uses them to do something a cybertruck can't.

It was pretty funny driving past the SpaceX facility in Hawthorne and seeing the F150s doing all the real work while the CTs sat to the side for press shots.

Re: Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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It's worth noting that crack formation is affected by more than just the design - variation in material and manufacturing steps could also contribute. A more robust design can potentially compensate for material or process variability, but those variables were likely not known nor knowable during the design stage. We should not boo companies for acknowledging and correcting issues which may not have been reasonably f…

> We should not boo companies for acknowledging and correcting issues

Nobody is booing the recall, they’re booing a company that makes the bad choices that lead to recalls like this. E.g. doorhandleless firetrap trashcan car with sharp corners and a high front for extra pedestrian-murder.

Re: Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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>Wasn't another car on the market that checked those boxes. Outside of "drives itself", I fail to see how much of what you described is unique. Seems very ordinary.

FSD was a big draw for me. have you used the latest on hw4 cars?

As crazy as this might sound to some people these days, I actually like driving.

Re: Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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Push the goal posts of you want. OP specifically said rear wheel drive. There’s a whole community that doesn’t consider anything without front and rear lockers, dana 44 axels, frame on body, and 37s with bead lock a real off road rig.

There is a difference between AWD and 4WD, because 4WD trucks are RWD until you manually change the mode. AWD is all on all the time and is FWD biased, usually something like 70:30 F:R. For most of their lives, even when towing, 4WD trucks are used as RWD only. As for specialized off-road vehicles that wasn't what we were talking about, but yes those people split hairs down to the micron for what constitutes what.

There are so many varieties of AWD. Most are wet-clutched (inside or outside of the main transmission), some are lockable or torsen center differentials, Prius adds electric power to the rear wheels to complement the FWD hybrid setup. Traditional 4WD with a transfer case using a manual shifter-actuated gear selector isn't very common any more. My 1999 Suburban had a wet clutch in a standard truck-shaped transfer case, one side of the front differential had a solenoid to lock/unlock one wheel to the side gear to keep the front drive shaft from spinning in RWD mode, and used a motor to mechanically engage or disengage the wet clutch (between the front and rear outputs) and to slide the engagement ring to offer AWD (rear-wheel biased, engaged when front and rear wheel speeds differed anywhere from 0 to 100% torque transfer) or 4WD (clutch fully engaged), and even 4WD-LOW by running the motor the other direction to engage the planetary gearing with the rear drive shaft.

In my mind, the biggest difference is whether front and rear drive shafts turn at exactly the same rate; if so it's "4WD". If clutch slippage or a differential allows different front and rear axle speeds then it's some form of AWD. But many AWD systems have clutches capable of effectively locking the front and rear driveshafts. E.g. the Suburban had tire-hop turning on pavement in 4WD mode which is about the most torque that drive-train would be expected to encounter.

Re: Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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If you're reading this thinking "wow, a recall! tesla must suck at building cars!" then you probably don't know anything about how the automotive industry works and you should refrain from commenting

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Re: Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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That's never been the case for me. Acceleration may be the issue I'm most likely to encounter, but the worst thing it'll do is inconvenience me. If traction is bad to the point where I won't be able to accelerate properly on a ramp, then either everybody's going slow enough that it doesn't matter, or I'm going to stay off the highway because it's too dangerous. Trouble accelerating in snow is common and a non-issue.…

It's not the highway that gets you (typically). It's all the stupid little roads that are built to substantially lesser standards. Steeper grades, tighter curve, hard 90 junctions, etc, etc. You carry just a hair too much speed into a curve because you're anticipating not wanting to have to use any gas pedal on the rise just beyond and you wind up in the ditch. Or you go wide into a curb because you took a less optim…

Sounds like a skill issue, as the kids say. If you go too fast, you'll be sad. I don't buy it that 2WD makes you more likely to go fast.

Re: Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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Lest folks get too carried away, the headline is a lie. The failure is "brake rotor stud separating from wheel hub". Now, sure, that's a serious failure. It's not "wh33lz f411 oFF!". Everything about this company is cursed at this point. The jeering masses are just as bad as the CEO. The cars themselves though continue to be really pretty great. Though maybe not the truck.

“If cracking propagates with continued use and strain, the wheel stud could eventually separate from the wheel hub.”

That quote is from Tesla, in the linked article. That says the wheel can fall off.

Re: Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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Yes, it can

no it cant

Bluecruise exists it works, it's generally safe. If you try and kick this back and say it's not Full Self Driving or comparable to Tesla, then I'm going to start posting links to videos of Tesla FSD (All generations, including latest) doing thing like ignoring school buses signs and mowing down children, turning off with no warning at highway speeds, and otherwise dangerously not-working.

You can try and claim Tesla's self-driving features are great and work 100% of the time, I suspect most people here know that is FUD and there is ample evidence that Tesla "FSD" is certainly no better than competitors and is arguably worse.

Re: Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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Dang you nailed my profile perfect. I bought one and its the best car I've ever had. Event though I was never a "truck" buyer it checked off all my needs: - space for wife, car seats + another adult when needed - haul around my kids, 4 bikes, skis, camping gear, etc. - drives itself - we do a ton of road trips - luxury - electric, tired of going to gas stations Wasn't another car on the market that checked those boxe…

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