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Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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Re: Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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Dang you nailed my profile perfect. I bought one and its the best car I've ever had. Event though I was never a "truck" buyer it checked off all my needs: - space for wife, car seats + another adult when needed - haul around my kids, 4 bikes, skis, camping gear, etc. - drives itself - we do a ton of road trips - luxury - electric, tired of going to gas stations Wasn't another car on the market that checked those boxe…

>Wasn't another car on the market that checked those boxes. Outside of "drives itself", I fail to see how much of what you described is unique. Seems very ordinary.

FSD was a big draw for me. have you used the latest on hw4 cars?

Re: Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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>Wasn't another car on the market that checked those boxes. Outside of "drives itself", I fail to see how much of what you described is unique. Seems very ordinary.

Nothing fits in this category, it's revolutionary (if you ignore every electric SUV on the market) !! Buyers who got an expensive and gaudy pile of shit will never want to admit their pile of shit doesn't smell to themselves.

i didnt care about looks. i just cared that it did the things I needed

Re: Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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Dang you nailed my profile perfect. I bought one and its the best car I've ever had. Event though I was never a "truck" buyer it checked off all my needs: - space for wife, car seats + another adult when needed - haul around my kids, 4 bikes, skis, camping gear, etc. - drives itself - we do a ton of road trips - luxury - electric, tired of going to gas stations Wasn't another car on the market that checked those boxe…

F150 Lightning checked all those boxes and also isn’t a complete piece of shit that sheds parts on the road.

cant drive it self

Re: Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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Dang you nailed my profile perfect. I bought one and its the best car I've ever had. Event though I was never a "truck" buyer it checked off all my needs: - space for wife, car seats + another adult when needed - haul around my kids, 4 bikes, skis, camping gear, etc. - drives itself - we do a ton of road trips - luxury - electric, tired of going to gas stations Wasn't another car on the market that checked those boxe…

This surely must be sarcasm. Right...?

nope. i'm literally the guy the GP is referring to :)

Re: Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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This has been a question the Slate team has been trying to answer. They claim the weight distribution being more even front-to-back (batteries offsetting motor, I presume), but I don't know whether I believe them. I was interested in a Slate, but the changes at the company lately (new CEO from McKinsey, rather than an engineer), along with decisions like RWD, and the anemic acceleration (0-60 in 8 seconds) gives me p…

I don’t know how the slate is designed but I have a rivian The battery pack is by far heavier than the motors. In the r1 they are also positioned with the wheels (quad) or front/back (dual) so weight distribution is great. If the slate has a single motor and is RWD then I would assume the weight might be biased toward the rear where the drive unit is powering the rear wheels. Either way the motor is relatively small…

I know little about this, so I suspect you're right. I've mostly been looking for the car version of a "dumb phone", and Slate looked like a nice fit, but it's thrown me into the world of EVs and I'm still pretty new to it.

That said, your explanation makes sense. Slate engineers claimed it would handle well, but it was vague enough that I'd want more detail before I believe them.

Re: Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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I probably wouldn't buy a truck, but it's at least a possibility that I'd get one for hauling materials and towing around town. If I did, I'd prefer a RWD model just to save a little money. I find the modern obsession with AWD a bit baffling. AWD doesn't help you stop in bad weather, so it feels like an illusory advantage there. RWD can be "interesting" compared to FWD, but modern traction control on an electric driv…

You get better regenerative braking performance out of FWD or AWD. Since typically the front brakes do most of the work, it makes sense to have that energy go into the motor rather than friction braking.

Traction is very rarely the limiting factor with regenerative braking even when it's only on the rear wheels.

Re: Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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It looks like they were designed by a disruptive startup unburdened by the history and experience of designing and building cars.

> “brake rotor stud holes may crack and allow the stud to separate from the wheel hub.” Possible While mechanical failures can happen in all companies, that do sounds like an inexperienced design (maybe from Tesla, maybe from a partner?)

I can't find pictures online but I'm assuming since it only affects the 2wd and it says if the rotor cracks the stud might leave that the rotor is also the hub.

Doing a half baked job on a part for your super low volume "we only make this to advertise a low starting price" model is something just about any OEM would do.

I bet their supplier just took whatever Chevy Van rotor they had that was close and modified it to fit and as a result it got a little thin somewhere.

Edit: Nope, I couldn't find a picture but I found pictures of big brake kits for the 2wd and clearly it's not an old (read: cheap) integrated hub and rotor.

Re: Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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> AWD doesn't help you stop in bad weather I frequently think about this when weather gets bad! I already have AWB (all wheel braking?). Seems like AWD could make it too easy to get in a situation where my AWB isn’t sufficient to stop

>Seems like AWD could make it too easy to get in a situation where my AWB isn’t sufficient to stop It's the opposite. You're more likely to carry too much speed into a situation in a FWD/RWD vehicle because doing so improves things a lot of the time. Take for example a highway merge. You can't accelerate well, so you carry more speed through the turn to make the merge more safe. Well that works great and improves saf…

That's never been the case for me. Acceleration may be the issue I'm most likely to encounter, but the worst thing it'll do is inconvenience me. If traction is bad to the point where I won't be able to accelerate properly on a ramp, then either everybody's going slow enough that it doesn't matter, or I'm going to stay off the highway because it's too dangerous.

Trouble accelerating in snow is common and a non-issue. Trouble stopping is uncommon but a potential disaster.

Re: Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off

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F150 Lightning checked all those boxes and also isn’t a complete piece of shit that sheds parts on the road.

cant drive it self

Blue Cruise is far more upfront about its abilities than whatever deadly beta garbage Tesla keeps tossing out there.
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