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Re: A web page that shows you everything the browser told it without asking

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Post by tossandthrow »

karmakaze wrote: post #82

Whether or not the information is accurate isn't really the point. It's that it serves as a way to identify you even without cookies. I looked for better websites, the EFF one[0] is informative. My browser fingerprint was unique among the visitors in the past 45 days. [0] https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/

At least in Europe the gdpr still counts, even when you don't use cookies but fingerprinting.

So if you use this information you still need to disclose it and process data in accordance with the law.

Re: A web page that shows you everything the browser told it without asking

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Post by globalnode »

karmakaze wrote: post #82

Whether or not the information is accurate isn't really the point. It's that it serves as a way to identify you even without cookies. I looked for better websites, the EFF one[0] is informative. My browser fingerprint was unique among the visitors in the past 45 days. [0] https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/

id still prefer the information be inaccurate. since sites are rude enough to try and track me, the least i can do is feed them unique garbage.

Re: A web page that shows you everything the browser told it without asking

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Post by basilikum »

> This volume requires JavaScript. That is part of the point — your browser is what is being read.

> With JavaScript off, the page cannot tell you what your browser disclosed. The data is still there. The disclosure still happened. Only the telling of it stops.

What? When I enable JS it shows me a lot of stuff that is only queriable with JS.

Re: A web page that shows you everything the browser told it without asking

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Post by ygjb »

RHSeeger wrote: post #77

> We did not ask for your location. Your address arrived before you did. Bunk. You asked a geolocation api/service to map my ip address back to a location. You _did_ ask for my location, using my IP as a key. And my IP is pretty much required in order for communication on the internet to work (outside of using services to hide it, but then _they_ have your info instead).

Nah. The browser has a mechanism to request geolocation. This is the ask that was not performed. The user was not asked, which is the important piece.

If I have a dictionary, I don't have to ask the meaning of a word I hear from someone I am speaking to, I can look it up in the dictionary. I may infer an incorrect meaning because the word has multiple meanings or is a colloquialism.

If I need to clarify that inaccuracy, I need other data points (for example, the context of the conversation), or I can ask my conversational partner for clarification).

Re: A web page that shows you everything the browser told it without asking

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Post by nottorp »

An instant loading page without animations and more contrast would have been more fun.

The fact that it begins with my IP address reminds me of those dubious VPN ads.

City is wrong, I may speak English but it's not my native language.

As other people said, there are much better pages showing you your browser fingerprint.

Re: A web page that shows you everything the browser told it without asking

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Post by akersten »

joshstrange wrote: post #37

It's somewhat interesting but over half of what it talked about is just silly. - Reverse IP/geocode (while be cute about "we won't show your IP", oh no, not my IP!) - Timezone - Ok, yeah, lots of websites need/make use of that for completely legit tasks - Browser/OS/Screen size - boring, again mostly needed or historical - GPU - Again, not super interesting IMHO - Battery - Ok, this is the first one I think should be…

People discovering "just how the web works" have spawned myriad complaints, misguided laws, and general anger and confusion. I wish there was a test people had to take before they go online or something. Otherwise they'll still be mad that Chrome Incognito didn't prevent ads.google.com from registering them as a pageview statistic.

Re: A web page that shows you everything the browser told it without asking

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Post by skerit »

> We know this because your IP address was the first thing your device sent us.

First paragraph, and I don't like this wording already. It's as if "my device" has any choice in the matter.

And actually, it's the reverse! Often enough your own device does not know your _actual_ public IP address without asking some kind of public service to snitch on your internet connection.

Re: A web page that shows you everything the browser told it without asking

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Post by nottorp »

ebolyen wrote: post #12

There's really a lot more you can look at here. Lot's a prior art on super-cookies and fingerprinting: https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/ https://amiunique.org/

Hmm interesting. I tried the EFF site and among other things it told me I'm on "MacIntel".

Gave me a scare, thought I'm still somehow running an x86 build of Firefox.

Re: A web page that shows you everything the browser told it without asking

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Post by ifh-hn »

karmakaze wrote: post #82

Whether or not the information is accurate isn't really the point. It's that it serves as a way to identify you even without cookies. I looked for better websites, the EFF one[0] is informative. My browser fingerprint was unique among the visitors in the past 45 days. [0] https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/

> Our tests indicate that you have strong protection against Web tracking.

Gotta love Firefox with ublock origin in advanced mode, even without JavaScript disabled so the site worked.

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