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one person's villain is another person's hero.
I imagine if they would be named and shamed, they would get huge contracts in companies like oracle.
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#32Thankfully I haven't met reCAPTCHA that often nowadays, thanks to other providers being more competent.
(And no, not you Microslop!)
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#33Exactly my thoughts. I am unfathomably angry and I want to contribute to any effort to dismantle Google as a company.
But remember: once again, don't simply get angry at Google the institution. Get angry at Page and Brin personally. They have the power to prevent this, a power they were careful to preserve when they gave Google its IPO. They are fully responsible for Google's choices here. But, partly because they aren't constantly jumping up and down drawing attention to themselves on social media, they've tended to escape the same personal scrutiny given to eg. Elon Musk. That needs to end.
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You don't think that some people simply disagree with the idea that this is bad? Or like maybe the CAPTCHA company who put out the post has an agenda here? So you want to go after engineers personally? I wonder what you've done that might warrant harassment? Look at how complicated CAPTCHAs are getting to try to be unsolvable with AI - it's a losing game. This and the WEI proposal are trying to solve a very, very rea…
> You don't think that some people simply disagree with the idea that this is bad?
Some people think women shouldn’t be allowed to vote, not all opinions are created equal.
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#36Exactly my thoughts. I am unfathomably angry and I want to contribute to any effort to dismantle Google as a company.
Yeah, same. It is hard; we start to need a collective boycott. We can all do our part, by using their products as little as possible, contribute to open alternatives (OpenStreetMap, Fediverse, Linux, Nextcloud...) and by stimulating our (non-techie!) friends and family. But it is a lot of work :(
It should not be a "vote with your wallet" situation. It should be governments shattering that organization into appropriately sized companies.
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#38Exactly my thoughts. I am unfathomably angry and I want to contribute to any effort to dismantle Google as a company.
On that topic, I would highly recommend you to switch to Kagi!
Search is still their workhorse for ad revenue. Less search, less users, in addition to users now just asking chatgpt and co, will hurt them well
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So many in hn already downvoted you. That says the SV nature and opinions in tech sector.
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#40AI use is far more prevalent now than then sadly. This kind of scheme is inevitable since compute is not free.
I disagree that this kind of scheme is inevitable. We can "evit" it through thoughtful discussion, foresight, alternative mitigations, and even regulation. Certainly, Google can choose to avoid it. On the other hand, the AI bubble will inevitably burst, since compute is not free. I look forward to post-bubble AI.
> We can "evit" it through thoughtful discussion, foresight, alternative mitigations, and even regulation
Such as? I don't see how regulation would apply here without concrete technical solutions that enforce it. So what alternative mitigations do you have in mind?