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GPT-5.5 Price Increase: What It Costs

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Re: GPT-5.5 Price Increase: What It Costs

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I feel that the recent iterations of LLM haven't provided an intuitive qualitative leap. Have they entered a bottleneck period so quickly?

They likely entered the same compute constraint scenario as Anthropic. IE. They had 100 compute units. Demand is 200 units. They have to do a combination of buying more compute, increasing price, lowering limits, etc.

capitalism convinced you that line goes up unless you dont let it eat all the resources.

Re: GPT-5.5 Price Increase: What It Costs

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post #7

I feel that the recent iterations of LLM haven't provided an intuitive qualitative leap. Have they entered a bottleneck period so quickly?

They likely entered the same compute constraint scenario as Anthropic. IE. They had 100 compute units. Demand is 200 units. They have to do a combination of buying more compute, increasing price, lowering limits, etc.

Bunch of nonsense.

If that is true then they should all invest resources into projects that will yield efficient use of the compute. The most efficient producer then gains a huge cost advantage AND capacity to serve more… so yeah.. that logic doesn’t hold.

Re: GPT-5.5 Price Increase: What It Costs

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post #7

I feel that the recent iterations of LLM haven't provided an intuitive qualitative leap. Have they entered a bottleneck period so quickly?

Azure recently discontinued the gpt-4.1 model. I had to move off of this model, and moving to any gpt-5* model was worse (higher failures & less accuracy), and more expensive. I had to rewrite the entire system from high school level prompts to lower elementary school level prompts using non-gpt models.

I would say models entered a bottleneck a long time ago. My personal opinion is now they are overfitting newer models on coding and "agentic" capabilities at great expense of general abilities in other domains.

Re: GPT-5.5 Price Increase: What It Costs

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post #11
post #7

I feel that the recent iterations of LLM haven't provided an intuitive qualitative leap. Have they entered a bottleneck period so quickly?

For what is worth I find GPT 5.5 qualitatively different than 5.4 and 5.3 If I had to collapse the nature of the difference in one sentence it'd be that the 5.5 does more what I'm asking it to do versus doing a small aspect of what I'm asking then stopping. 5.4 required a lot of "continue" encouragement. 5.5 just "gets it" a bit more What is boils down to for me is that even though it's more expensive I would much ra…

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Re: GPT-5.5 Price Increase: What It Costs

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post #7

I feel that the recent iterations of LLM haven't provided an intuitive qualitative leap. Have they entered a bottleneck period so quickly?

They likely entered the same compute constraint scenario as Anthropic. IE. They had 100 compute units. Demand is 200 units. They have to do a combination of buying more compute, increasing price, lowering limits, etc.

You mean the company that just doubled their rate limits? https://www.anthropic.com/news/higher-limits-spacex

Re: GPT-5.5 Price Increase: What It Costs

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post #7

I feel that the recent iterations of LLM haven't provided an intuitive qualitative leap. Have they entered a bottleneck period so quickly?

In fairness I think these recent few iterations have done reasonably well considering it's largely optimising/fine tuning/enhancing multimodal integrations in existing foundation models rather than generating new ones but at some point the next big foundation models will come out.

We'll probably see another stair step change followed by another plateauing curve of incremental improvements when that happens.

Re: GPT-5.5 Price Increase: What It Costs

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post #11
post #7

I feel that the recent iterations of LLM haven't provided an intuitive qualitative leap. Have they entered a bottleneck period so quickly?

For what is worth I find GPT 5.5 qualitatively different than 5.4 and 5.3 If I had to collapse the nature of the difference in one sentence it'd be that the 5.5 does more what I'm asking it to do versus doing a small aspect of what I'm asking then stopping. 5.4 required a lot of "continue" encouragement. 5.5 just "gets it" a bit more What is boils down to for me is that even though it's more expensive I would much ra…

They must have changed something recently as when 5.5 first dropped I was unable to make it do anything. It would say it will implement, but would never actually do it, no matter how many times I tried to tell it what it needs to do. It would acknowledge what needs to be done, even create step by step plan and then ask if it should do it. I would confirm and then it will just go around reiterating the plan and that this time it will start. Annoying and funny. Now it doesn't seem to be doing that anymore.

Re: GPT-5.5 Price Increase: What It Costs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For what is worth I find GPT 5.5 qualitatively different than 5.4 and 5.3 If I had to collapse the nature of the difference in one sentence it'd be that the 5.5 does more what I'm asking it to do versus doing a small aspect of what I'm asking then stopping. 5.4 required a lot of "continue" encouragement. 5.5 just "gets it" a bit more What is boils down to for me is that even though it's more expensive I would much ra…

They must have changed something recently as when 5.5 first dropped I was unable to make it do anything. It would say it will implement, but would never actually do it, no matter how many times I tried to tell it what it needs to do. It would acknowledge what needs to be done, even create step by step plan and then ask if it should do it. I would confirm and then it will just go around reiterating the plan and that t…

I think that's a failure mode of using the legacy completions API rather than the new responses API. With the responses API, the agent actually goes and does the things it's supposed to do.

Re: GPT-5.5 Price Increase: What It Costs

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post #7

I feel that the recent iterations of LLM haven't provided an intuitive qualitative leap. Have they entered a bottleneck period so quickly?

I remember thinking the same thing shortly after GPT-5 came out, then Opus 4.5 dropped.

Some releases are just "meh", but I wouldn't rule out exciting new stuff for 2026 just because Opus 4.7 sucked.

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