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Don't do it anywhere. He's a jerk for doing it on reddit.
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AI slop is killing online communities
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> where I had an agent karma Was this a browser using agent? What did you use?
It used the browser agent to grab user cookies after signing in, then made API calls iirc. Using just a browser is way too token intensive and slow. It would look for 401 errors then run the browser automation to login with the credentials and grab the token.
I'm surprised these platforms don't have advanced heuristics to detect API calls and inauthentic traffic.
Did you clone the Reddit API from browser traffic and then turn it into a 100% API driven thing?
I'd imagine they'd be sniffing browser agents, plugins, cookies, etc. to fingerprint. Using JavaScript scroll position, browsing rate and patterns, etc.
Maybe their protections just aren't that sophisticated.
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#143I kind feel this might be good. Bot writen comments and AI media that can no longer be distinguish from real, will make us human leave the social networks, which helped to separate Us humans. Going back to the real world were you can trully believe on what you see, and enjoy the tone, look and scent of of our fellows humans beings.
But I have a lot of friends online, both ones I made online and ones that have moved away from me and vice versa.
I don't want to be limited to only the friends I can make who live near me
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LLMs are not good at writing. If they were we would have entire libraries of new, amazing literature.
This is rather moving the goalposts from "plausibly human comment" to "meaningful literature", I think
No. I'm drawing it out to its logical conclusion.
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The obvious ones are the ones you notice
LLMs are not good at writing. If they were we would have entire libraries of new, amazing literature.
Exactly, they aren't good at creating new material. But many discussions in comment section are simply regurgitations of existing material, which they are good at rearranging. New novel discussions in places like this are actually a very rare thing, as many comment sections are simply people who already know informing those who don't. I'm doing that right now, funnily enough.
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#146I have largely written Reddit off and no longer visit it after an experiment I did where I had an agent karma farm for me and do some covert advertising. As I went through the posts it wrote I realized that as a reader I would have NO idea that these were just written by a computer. Many many people (or other bots) had full on conversations with it and it scared me a bit. I am not quite there with Hacker News but I d…
Did you ever introspect about who ruined Reddit?
It’s a tragedy of the commons, many have done it, but no one user did it.
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#147There has to be room for an AI-driven project that expresses a unique idea, even if there's no community around it yet. Someone has to express it, and from now on that idea will largely be implemented with AI. > A good use of AI is when it enables people to do something they couldn’t do before, to contribute to a community when they couldn’t before. I agree 100% with the novel contribution aspect. But there's some nu…
> A good use of AI is when it enables people to do something they couldn’t do before, to contribute to a community when they couldn’t before. There are two separate things here that are getting silently conflated. > A good use of AI is when it enables people to do something they couldn’t do before This could be good on an individual level, if say, a doctor wants to vibe code an app of some sort for his individual pra…
The human has unique context. They may work in a niche domain or they talked to people and observed an unsolved problem. Then they express a potential solution via OSS. It's like product sense. Then they share that with others who find it interesting. The code is a great way to encapsulate the idea. It is usually the result of research and back and forth not a single prompt. It would be way harder to think through or build a solution without AI even if they had context.
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#148I kind feel this might be good. Bot writen comments and AI media that can no longer be distinguish from real, will make us human leave the social networks, which helped to separate Us humans. Going back to the real world were you can trully believe on what you see, and enjoy the tone, look and scent of of our fellows humans beings.
A few tech companies managed to get massive numbers of people addicted to toxic social media content that was terrible for mental health but made a small group very wealthy. I don't think those same businesses and execs are just going to pack up and go home with an even more powerful content tool available now. LLMs are going to be used to create skinner boxes that make Facebook and Twitter seem like wholesome communities.
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#149I have largely written Reddit off and no longer visit it after an experiment I did where I had an agent karma farm for me and do some covert advertising. As I went through the posts it wrote I realized that as a reader I would have NO idea that these were just written by a computer. Many many people (or other bots) had full on conversations with it and it scared me a bit. I am not quite there with Hacker News but I d…
Did you ever introspect about who ruined Reddit?
Yeah, if carlgreene specifically stopped doing that Reddit would be saved. They are the one savior.
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Unlike a lot of communities, yours at least started on the correct side. Better to ban outright, than to slowly realize that you should have banned it.
Indeed. Take a soft approach, or "wait and see", and you'll just allow your community to get infested with slop enthusiast crybullies that loudly protest any pushback against "genai content". The communities that draw a firm line and hold it will be the only ones that endure.
It was a surprise to us how vehemently some folk defended AI content and assumed it was their right to post it within our community.
We had no problems with people using it and posting elsewhere, it was the demands that we must allow it that were problematic and made us question whether we were doing the right thing.
No regrets now, though, as we see competitors being flooded with AI slop and they are too invested in it to change now.
Now I see it as the perfect tool for impostors.