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AI slop is killing online communities

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Re: AI slop is killing online communities

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Unless you've discovered the secret sauce, LLM comments are very obvious. Even Altman revealed that they focused on coding at the expense of writing.

People that like to fancy themselves as good llm content detectors just end up accusing everything they don't like as llm content. The only thing worst than a slop comment are the people that bitch about it incessantly. I'm convinced it's become a new expression of a mental illness.

A mere opinion is not mental illness.

Re: AI slop is killing online communities

#63

There are "nice", "polite" slop enthusiasts. The ones who insist they have taste and tact. They would never post bad slop, recklessly, only the very highest-quality human-refined, curated slop. Not really slop at all, they would argue, because they gave it a careful review before posting it. They insist there's a very important difference between this premium slop and the nasty kind, and that low-quality human-author…

gonna start calling this effect The Slop Vanguard

Re: AI slop is killing online communities

#64

I have largely written Reddit off and no longer visit it after an experiment I did where I had an agent karma farm for me and do some covert advertising. As I went through the posts it wrote I realized that as a reader I would have NO idea that these were just written by a computer. Many many people (or other bots) had full on conversations with it and it scared me a bit. I am not quite there with Hacker News but I d…

Unless you've discovered the secret sauce, LLM comments are very obvious. Even Altman revealed that they focused on coding at the expense of writing.

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Re: AI slop is killing online communities

#65
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Possibly to test reactions to a bot they plan to build a startup around. I've seen some claim they do it to avoid stylometry or being fingerprinted, or because of social anxiety problems. Some people just have a compulsive need to optimize everything, and HN's guidelines and tone policing are more easily followed by a bot than a human.

> HN's guidelines and tone policing are more easily followed by a bot than a human. HN's guidelines aren't that strict and the mod hammer is a plushie. It's not difficult to get by here. It's also kind of useful for critical reflection/self-regulation to hear the occasional "you came in too hot" or "don't be boring" from a moderator. Seems better to me to just try to be sort of reasonable and let the mods nudge you i…

>What is the goal of these people, to never experience correction in their lives? To never write an unpopular comment?

Yes?

Re: AI slop is killing online communities

#66

I have largely written Reddit off and no longer visit it after an experiment I did where I had an agent karma farm for me and do some covert advertising. As I went through the posts it wrote I realized that as a reader I would have NO idea that these were just written by a computer. Many many people (or other bots) had full on conversations with it and it scared me a bit. I am not quite there with Hacker News but I d…

Unless you've discovered the secret sauce, LLM comments are very obvious. Even Altman revealed that they focused on coding at the expense of writing.

I have worked with LLMs for a couple years at a very non-technical level and it was not that difficult to give it proper prompting and reference material.

If you are reading LLM content just about everywhere and have no idea. Obviously there are easy to spot things, but the stuff you don't spot is the stuff you don't spot

Re: AI slop is killing online communities

#67

I run a niche creative community, and we outlawed AI-generated content in 2022 as it was easy to see how corrosive it would be to the community. It hasn't been easy. We ban fake AI accounts daily and shrug off around 600 AI content creator accounts monthly. It's a lot of work, extra work that wasn't needed before AI content came around, and of course, that is an extra cost. I fear losing the battle.

Unlike a lot of communities, yours at least started on the correct side. Better to ban outright, than to slowly realize that you should have banned it.

Re: AI slop is killing online communities

#68

I have largely written Reddit off and no longer visit it after an experiment I did where I had an agent karma farm for me and do some covert advertising. As I went through the posts it wrote I realized that as a reader I would have NO idea that these were just written by a computer. Many many people (or other bots) had full on conversations with it and it scared me a bit. I am not quite there with Hacker News but I d…

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Re: AI slop is killing online communities

#69

There are "nice", "polite" slop enthusiasts. The ones who insist they have taste and tact. They would never post bad slop, recklessly, only the very highest-quality human-refined, curated slop. Not really slop at all, they would argue, because they gave it a careful review before posting it. They insist there's a very important difference between this premium slop and the nasty kind, and that low-quality human-author…

I'm not the arbiter on all things Godwin's Law, but either way the analogy doesn't work.

Re: AI slop is killing online communities

#70

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People that like to fancy themselves as good llm content detectors just end up accusing everything they don't like as llm content. The only thing worst than a slop comment are the people that bitch about it incessantly. I'm convinced it's become a new expression of a mental illness.

A mere opinion is not mental illness.

I wasn't suggesting you have a mental illness for having an opinion.

More, commenting that just as bad as generated content if not worse is every thread where the top comment is an accusation and ensuing witch hunt.

So, no, having an opinion is not a mental illness. Feeling compelled to call it out and discuss it on everything one reads may just be.

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