Are you kidding me? A "Show HN" to an imgur link of a photoshopped UI? Be honest, this is thinly (poorly) veiled ad for New Relic.
Show HN: A personal Gmail
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Re: Show HN: A personal Gmail
#62I'd pay in a tune of $100 for an installable version of this, but would never consider using it as a service.
PS. Though you could probably license it to smaller, well-established email service providers like pobox.com.
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#63This looks really well done, but as a consumer I wouldn't trust a small-timer (no offense) with something as ubiquitous as my email. As a company looking to self-host, however, your product looks very appealing, but then your battling other players than just GMail. I think in the corporate sector, it would be very hard to dislodge Outlook, which is a shame really.
"I think in the corporate sector, it would be very hard to dislodge Outlook, which is a shame really." I'm not sure how hard it would be to take some Outlook Web Access share away if targeting smaller companies since the cost could be potentially lower and licensing agreements potentially much easier to understand.
Have you seen office365.com? $6 a month per user for cloud Exchange, web e-mail, full Outlook integration if you want, plus online storage, view and editing of Word, Excel & Powerpoint. It's a lot to compete with for $6 a month.
Re: Show HN: A personal Gmail
#64Open source the app. There's a huge lacking in good web based open source mail clients. Fill it. Offer a pay-for premium hosted version. Have us pay for service, not software. If you released this, assuming it doesn't suck balls, I'd be running it immediately. I'm currently using Rackspace for my email hosting; check them out. They're good, good be better. ;)
Haha, thanks for your frank words. I actually like your idea for 2 reasons: 1) OpenSource would definitely improve the quality of the app while still maintaining a way to profit from my work. 2) Finally giving back to OpenSource. Always felt kinda bad I haven't contributed much to a great community.
There is definatly a lot of service you could provide even if the app is open source. As GP said, hosting and infrastructure, but also better spam filtering, taking not get and remove domains from spam lists (SPF, DomainKeys, checking your domain and custom domains against spam lists and notifying the owner, &c).
Also, a nice export to S3 or a tar.gz or something would be nice if you were a private service.
Re: Show HN: A personal Gmail
#65This app looks incredible but I have absolutely no interest in using a Gmail look alike without all the Gmail features aka android integration, amazing spam blocking, etc, etc, etc (this list could be extensive and most other people have already covered it). You have the looks down but what you need to seriously focus on now is the back-end and how you might be able to bring all the gmail features people love along.
Absolutely. I'm quite happy with how it looks (thanks btw), but such a mission critical app requires a well though-out backend. I'm not even sure that hosting the data myself (on heroku postgresql) is even a viable option.
Re: Show HN: A personal Gmail
#66Arguably the one thing missing from Gmail right now is the ability to pick up the phone and speak to someone when something isn't working.
If you can offer that level of support at the same time, I can't see any reason for a company not to give you money.
Oh, and don't be discouraged by the people saying "no, never!" You can use third parties for handling spam, and it'll be easy enough to get mail onto peoples' phones via IMAP or Exchange. The thing to remember is that plenty of techies will say "no" because they see email as a free service. Regular consumers - and companies in particular - will be much more open to giving you money.
Re: Show HN: A personal Gmail
#67Arguably the one thing missing from Gmail right now is the ability to pick up the phone and speak to someone when something isn't working. If you can offer that level of support at the same time, I can't see any reason for a company not to give you money. Oh, and don't be discouraged by the people saying "no, never!" You can use third parties for handling spam, and it'll be easy enough to get mail onto peoples' phone…
Thanks for the kind words.
Actually: Most of the points you raise have been solved. MailGun has (as far as i can tell after a week of usage) a great spam filter and supports IMAP.
To be honest: I wouldn't even consider building the email infrastructure part myself.
Re: Show HN: A personal Gmail
#68Are you kidding me? A "Show HN" to an imgur link of a photoshopped UI? Be honest, this is thinly (poorly) veiled ad for New Relic.
I immediately saw and thought the same thing. I do like the UI though.
Re: Show HN: A personal Gmail
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Haha, thanks for your frank words. I actually like your idea for 2 reasons: 1) OpenSource would definitely improve the quality of the app while still maintaining a way to profit from my work. 2) Finally giving back to OpenSource. Always felt kinda bad I haven't contributed much to a great community.
There is definatly a lot of service you could provide even if the app is open source. As GP said, hosting and infrastructure, but also better spam filtering, taking not get and remove domains from spam lists (SPF, DomainKeys, checking your domain and custom domains against spam lists and notifying the owner, &c). Also, a nice export to S3 or a tar.gz or something would be nice if you were a private service.
I already backup all incoming mail as JSON on my Dropbox and plan to do the same periodically as MBOX. I'm not entirely sure what to do with the JSON, though. It's a "leftover" from my first prototype, where I stored ALL DATA on Dropbox.
Re: Show HN: A personal Gmail
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
> You say that like Gmail is the market leader here, they're not. They are as far as I'm concerned. I'm curious, though, who you do consider to be the market leader? I'm going to have a hard time keeping my composure if you say Hotmail (or "Live" mail), Yahoo, or something similar.
In terms of users they obviously are the market leader. I use Outlook.com personally and consider it to be overall better than Gmail. I'd gladly debate this if you'd like. Never the less, my original point was that all of these Gmail strengths that you think are very important are obviously not very important to people using Yahoo or their ISP webmail. The idea that everyone uses Gmail and any competitor must compete…
"obviously are the market leader"
Gmail only just recently (October 2012) overtook Hotmail.