What we learn: we can not trust Google.
Doesn't look like that has been or will ever be (generally) learned.
Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers
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Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers
#72I know that I'm in a bit of a bubble with this one, but I am surprised there is still anyone using Chrome instead of Brave. I get the dependency on Gmail other Google-specific tools, but the built-in ad blocking and Google-free aspects of it made me switch instantly and haven't look back after years.
After years of using alternative to chrome (Firefox, Chromium, Brave, Opera, Vivaldi, Edge, etc ...) I have stopped fighting the choice of IT for installing and setting Chrome as the default browser on a Mac. I still use Firefox when I can and religiously reroute URLs to it where possible, but this is beating me down and I would rather spend time playing with LLMs rather than continue this struggle.
Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers
#73It seems to me that adding AI to desktop apps and sending the data back to the mothership for processing is an amazing way to collect data from people who, for the most part, would be completely unaware it's even happening.
Heck, most of them think the Internet is Chrome.
Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers
#74It's on-device AI spyware, really. It collects intelligence about the user, summarizes it and sends it to Google, all paid by the user's electricity bill. Deviously clever.
Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers
#75Has anyone found a browser with comparably good dev tools to Chrome?
Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because some things only work in Chrome. It's a fact. It's terrible. We're the frogs being boiled, over the last decade. People sounded the alarms, but they were looked at like they had tin foil on their heads. Now, it's clear they were right. I'm speaking generally, of course. I use Firefox for all my personal stuff, except for those situations where it doesn't work.
>> Because some things only work in Chrome. What things? Looks like an urban myth.
Chrome likes to make up new "standards" and then some websites adopt them immediately.
That said, I can only remember two instances of that slightly inconveniencing me in the past, and both times I was inconvenienced by a Google-run website: once upon a time Google Earth refused to work, and once upon a time I couldn't tweak my Google Meet background. Both are no longer the case.
Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers
#77Has anyone found a browser with comparably good dev tools to Chrome?
You could try Helium (https://helium.computer/), it's a de-googled chrome and has the same devtools.
Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because some things only work in Chrome. It's a fact. It's terrible. We're the frogs being boiled, over the last decade. People sounded the alarms, but they were looked at like they had tin foil on their heads. Now, it's clear they were right. I'm speaking generally, of course. I use Firefox for all my personal stuff, except for those situations where it doesn't work.
>> Because some things only work in Chrome. What things? Looks like an urban myth.
I'm aware of a few things, myself:
1) Google properties
1a) Chromecast
2) a few web-based games that were really pushing the envelope on web APIs and didn't bother testing on Firefox
3) WebUSB, commonly used for some things like keyboard customization apps
Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
I switched to Firefox when Chrome started messing with the ad blockers. Haven't really had any issues. I prefer developer tools on Chrome but I rarely need to use them anyway.
The trouble is that Mozilla has admitted they can't survive without Google's revenue. You are basically using Google by proxy unless you use a truly independent browser engine of they get blocked by Cloudflare for not having enough fingerprinting tech.
I don't agree that you are using Google by proxy when Firefox has more technical independence from Google than Chrome and can be quickly decoupled from the few Google defaults it has, search and safe browsing.
Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers
#80I know that I'm in a bit of a bubble with this one, but I am surprised there is still anyone using Chrome instead of Brave. I get the dependency on Gmail other Google-specific tools, but the built-in ad blocking and Google-free aspects of it made me switch instantly and haven't look back after years.
I'm similar but instead of brave, which I don't trust, prefer Firefox.
I don't trust Firefox either, so I use Zen, which is based on Firefox and also changes the UI.