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Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

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Post by sheept »

pier25 wrote: post #13
ScoobleDoodle wrote: post #12

For someone with more knowledge than me: How does this affect other Chromium based browsers? I did some web searches and see Brave has its own AI thing “Leo” that is intended to preserve privacy. But I don’t think that is on device. Please correct me if I’m wrong. I use Firefox myself but have family and friends who use various Chromium based browsers. Thank you.

Also, does this affect Chrome for iOS, Android, and iPadOS?

The docs say "not yet."[0] My guess is that for Android they probably plan to enable it for high end phones, and for iOS they'll probably just stick to non-API AI features.

[0]: https://developer.chrome.com/docs/ai/prompt-api#hardware-req...

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

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Post by iAMkenough »

newsoftheday wrote: post #20
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #11

I know that I'm in a bit of a bubble with this one, but I am surprised there is still anyone using Chrome instead of Brave. I get the dependency on Gmail other Google-specific tools, but the built-in ad blocking and Google-free aspects of it made me switch instantly and haven't look back after years.

My theory is that, since I'm going to do things like banking in my browser, I want one that has a lot of skin in the game. Chrome being backed by Google has trillions of dollars on the line should they ever do anything truly evil. Though this sneaky 4GB download comes close.

Edge and Chrome could both be eliminated tomorrow and those trillions would be safe.

You’re the product, not the browser.

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

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Post by wafflemaker »

Since the thread evolved into browser comparisons, I'd like to endorse a better uBlock ('s fork) - AdNausem.

It doesn't block ads. It clicks them first, and then blocks them.

I don't want websites to loose revenue because of my adnlocker. I want them to make extra money because of it!

I'm not affiliated, but would like the project to get more followers. This can stop ads once and for all.

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

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Post by BrenBarn »

wafflemaker wrote: post #53

Since the thread evolved into browser comparisons, I'd like to endorse a better uBlock ('s fork) - AdNausem. It doesn't block ads. It clicks them first, and then blocks them. I don't want websites to loose revenue because of my adnlocker. I want them to make extra money because of it! I'm not affiliated, but would like the project to get more followers. This can stop ads once and for all.

How will it stop ads if it rewards them with money?

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

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Post by xacky »

skocznymroczny wrote: post #47
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #11

I know that I'm in a bit of a bubble with this one, but I am surprised there is still anyone using Chrome instead of Brave. I get the dependency on Gmail other Google-specific tools, but the built-in ad blocking and Google-free aspects of it made me switch instantly and haven't look back after years.

I switched to Firefox when Chrome started messing with the ad blockers. Haven't really had any issues. I prefer developer tools on Chrome but I rarely need to use them anyway.

The trouble is that Mozilla has admitted they can't survive without Google's revenue. You are basically using Google by proxy unless you use a truly independent browser engine of they get blocked by Cloudflare for not having enough fingerprinting tech.

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

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Post by tcp_handshaker »

BrenBarn wrote: post #54
wafflemaker wrote: post #53

Since the thread evolved into browser comparisons, I'd like to endorse a better uBlock ('s fork) - AdNausem. It doesn't block ads. It clicks them first, and then blocks them. I don't want websites to loose revenue because of my adnlocker. I want them to make extra money because of it! I'm not affiliated, but would like the project to get more followers. This can stop ads once and for all.

How will it stop ads if it rewards them with money?

You question is the answer to your query

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

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Post by tcp_handshaker »

e40 wrote: post #49
amatecha wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm just surprised people use Chrome at all. Google has proven over and over they can't be trusted and will exploit you every chance they get.

Because some things only work in Chrome. It's a fact. It's terrible. We're the frogs being boiled, over the last decade. People sounded the alarms, but they were looked at like they had tin foil on their heads. Now, it's clear they were right. I'm speaking generally, of course. I use Firefox for all my personal stuff, except for those situations where it doesn't work.

>> Because some things only work in Chrome.

What things? Looks like an urban myth.

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

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Post by SecretDreams »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #41
SecretDreams wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no skin in the game if they do not think they'll be meaningfully punished by government or consumers for their wrongdoings.

And they have trillions riding on milking you for all your data and ad impressions.

Which they seem to think they'll get, regardless of the quality of their web browser. Most people are entrapped by Android anywho.

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

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Post by tcp_handshaker »

Markoff wrote: post #17
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #11

I know that I'm in a bit of a bubble with this one, but I am surprised there is still anyone using Chrome instead of Brave. I get the dependency on Gmail other Google-specific tools, but the built-in ad blocking and Google-free aspects of it made me switch instantly and haven't look back after years.

why would you use brave with annoying crypto and no customization over superior Vivaldi?

Why did I had to come so much down this thread, before seeing a mention of my favorite browser?

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

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Post by stronglikedan »

BrenBarn wrote: post #54
wafflemaker wrote: post #53

Since the thread evolved into browser comparisons, I'd like to endorse a better uBlock ('s fork) - AdNausem. It doesn't block ads. It clicks them first, and then blocks them. I don't want websites to loose revenue because of my adnlocker. I want them to make extra money because of it! I'm not affiliated, but would like the project to get more followers. This can stop ads once and for all.

How will it stop ads if it rewards them with money?

It rewards Google with the advertiser's money, and the advertisers don't like paying for extremely low conversion rates.
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