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Re: Ask HN: Next Step for Monetizing our Site

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There are already graphing sites out there, but they're more data oriented than calculation oriented (not sure if that makes sense). But basically if you could hook the calc up to a graph and make them really easy to create and share you would be able to get some virality. If you had a ton of graphs out on the web with ads on them you (like millions of them) you could make some money.

Great Idea. InstaCalc.com has this sort of thing for sharing spreadsheet like calculations.

Re: Ask HN: Next Step for Monetizing our Site

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post #10

Before understanding the best option, you should examine your user base a little more. 10K a day sure, but what's the breakdown? Do you have 2K that visit the site 5 times a day, every day? That lends itself well to the subscription model. Are most of your visitors in and outs from google, with no recurring vistis? Ads might be the better option here. Are most of your visits coming from .edu domains? There may be an…

That's great information. Does Google Analytics break down if they are coming from .edu domains or do I need more powerful analytic tools? Thanks

I'm not sure to be honest. I think it may. You're basically looking at a reverse DNS lookup, and that's not exactly accurate, but might put you on the right path.

Re: Ask HN: Next Step for Monetizing our Site

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post #7

iPhone app?

This is a valid idea - though there are already a ton of calculators on the iPhone store and so we'd be competing against a saturated marketplace. One reason we did this project was the fact that most online calculators have terrible user interfaces and don't support things like complex numbers, or a traditional stack.

Have you considered who/how you're marketing this to? Maybe you could find a way to target engineering and science students. What does the $15 version offer that the online one doesn't? That wasn't immediately obvious to me, but I didn't look to long.

How does the calculator handle something like solving a matrix of complex numbers. I had to do that a lot in linear circuit analysis and would have loved a better tool to do it with.

Re: Ask HN: Next Step for Monetizing our Site

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post #7

iPhone app?

This is a valid idea - though there are already a ton of calculators on the iPhone store and so we'd be competing against a saturated marketplace. One reason we did this project was the fact that most online calculators have terrible user interfaces and don't support things like complex numbers, or a traditional stack.

Just because there's a ton, doesn't mean its saturated. Moreover, do the owners of those apps have the ability to direct 10k users daily towards downloading their app? I would seriously look into it. Same with Android. Its silly to dismiss the iphone just because there are competitors. You can kick their ass even though they were first.

Edit: I should also add, the iPhone/mobile apps would likely far outstrip the sales of the $15 download, because people are used to buying iPhone apps, and Apple has made it much easier than buying from you. I would even suggest reversing the flow, so to speak, and talk about how iPhone users can find a free version online from their home or work computers whenever they want.

Re: Ask HN: Next Step for Monetizing our Site

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a valid idea - though there are already a ton of calculators on the iPhone store and so we'd be competing against a saturated marketplace. One reason we did this project was the fact that most online calculators have terrible user interfaces and don't support things like complex numbers, or a traditional stack.

Have you considered who/how you're marketing this to? Maybe you could find a way to target engineering and science students. What does the $15 version offer that the online one doesn't? That wasn't immediately obvious to me, but I didn't look to long. How does the calculator handle something like solving a matrix of complex numbers. I had to do that a lot in linear circuit analysis and would have loved a better tool…

The desktop version runs standalone in a borderless window and includes six color schemes and the ability to close the side bar. My background is in EE, so we designed the linear equation solver to handle complex number (both in polar and rec format) which is perfect for solving circuit problems. So you can enter in your mesh loops and solve for various complex values. We'll have some documentation on how to do this, but basically if you have a set of simultaneous equations with complex coeff you can enter them in each box and solve for the answers..

Re: Ask HN: Next Step for Monetizing our Site

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post #3

As you've said, why pay, when you can use the free version on-line? You have to give them something for their money. You have to differentiate between the free version and the one they pay for. Graphing is one option, but you'll need to think of more. There's also the problem of people paying, downloading, and then giving it away to others. Do you not worry about this? Or do you somehow "lock" the download to that us…

Yes, these are all good points. I really want to find a way to keep the online version for free. The advantage of the download (desktop version) is that users can run in a borderless window with six color schemes and the ability to close the side palette. I'm sure there are many students in poor countries that enjoy having a nice powerful online calculator that is easy to use, but nice is not a good business model. W…

Isn't the $15 download already the "pro" version?

Re: Ask HN: Next Step for Monetizing our Site

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a valid idea - though there are already a ton of calculators on the iPhone store and so we'd be competing against a saturated marketplace. One reason we did this project was the fact that most online calculators have terrible user interfaces and don't support things like complex numbers, or a traditional stack.

Just because there's a ton, doesn't mean its saturated. Moreover, do the owners of those apps have the ability to direct 10k users daily towards downloading their app? I would seriously look into it. Same with Android. Its silly to dismiss the iphone just because there are competitors. You can kick their ass even though they were first. Edit: I should also add, the iPhone/mobile apps would likely far outstrip the sal…

Good point. We created this calculator using just JS and CSS so it should be really simple to port to the new Pre, which is our plan. However, our background is not in programming so starting up iPhone programming might be a bit of a trip...

Re: Ask HN: Next Step for Monetizing our Site

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, these are all good points. I really want to find a way to keep the online version for free. The advantage of the download (desktop version) is that users can run in a borderless window with six color schemes and the ability to close the side palette. I'm sure there are many students in poor countries that enjoy having a nice powerful online calculator that is easy to use, but nice is not a good business model. W…

Isn't the $15 download already the "pro" version?

Yeah, maybe we need the "Super Pro" that includes Graphing and other cool features. Or take away some online features and wrap them into the "Pro Only" package.

Re: Ask HN: Next Step for Monetizing our Site

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you considered who/how you're marketing this to? Maybe you could find a way to target engineering and science students. What does the $15 version offer that the online one doesn't? That wasn't immediately obvious to me, but I didn't look to long. How does the calculator handle something like solving a matrix of complex numbers. I had to do that a lot in linear circuit analysis and would have loved a better tool…

The desktop version runs standalone in a borderless window and includes six color schemes and the ability to close the side bar. My background is in EE, so we designed the linear equation solver to handle complex number (both in polar and rec format) which is perfect for solving circuit problems. So you can enter in your mesh loops and solve for various complex values. We'll have some documentation on how to do this,…

OK, one more comment, then I'll stop. :-)

Does the desktop version do all the math functions of the web/free version? Most EE types aren't too into closing sidebars or color schemes. I guess if I was a student and there was some sort of teaser, like a way to ease the pain of linear circuit analysis, I'd probably buy.

I wonder what other stuff you could add to mess with competing iPhone apps. I'm a Luddite Blackberry owner, so I don't know quite what's out there.

Re: Ask HN: Next Step for Monetizing our Site

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The desktop version runs standalone in a borderless window and includes six color schemes and the ability to close the side bar. My background is in EE, so we designed the linear equation solver to handle complex number (both in polar and rec format) which is perfect for solving circuit problems. So you can enter in your mesh loops and solve for various complex values. We'll have some documentation on how to do this,…

OK, one more comment, then I'll stop. :-) Does the desktop version do all the math functions of the web/free version? Most EE types aren't too into closing sidebars or color schemes. I guess if I was a student and there was some sort of teaser, like a way to ease the pain of linear circuit analysis, I'd probably buy. I wonder what other stuff you could add to mess with competing iPhone apps. I'm a Luddite Blackberry…

We have plans for more cool EE features, so that's a bonus. Right now it's more general purpose so we could get a nice first release out. Maybe we'll see some traction if we market it more toward engineers.
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