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Re: Show HN: A personal Gmail

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Post by MatthewPhillips »

k3n wrote: post #23
MatthewPhillips wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You say that like Gmail is the market leader here, they're not. Most of the features you mentioned do exist in other services and other services do have features that Gmail doesn't. The OP can definitely make a business out of email, it is far from a solved problem.

> You say that like Gmail is the market leader here, they're not. They are as far as I'm concerned. I'm curious, though, who you do consider to be the market leader? I'm going to have a hard time keeping my composure if you say Hotmail (or "Live" mail), Yahoo, or something similar.

In terms of users they obviously are the market leader. I use Outlook.com personally and consider it to be overall better than Gmail. I'd gladly debate this if you'd like.

Never the less, my original point was that all of these Gmail strengths that you think are very important are obviously not very important to people using Yahoo or their ISP webmail. The idea that everyone uses Gmail and any competitor must compete feature-by-feature is just incorrect.

Re: Show HN: A personal Gmail

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Post by brianobush »

MatthewPhillips wrote: post #9
maratd wrote: post #5

> Would you even consider using the app, in case I'd make a commercial product out of it? No. I use Google because of the stuff that happens in the background, that I never see. Their infrastructure, SPAM blocking, Android app, intrusion detection, seamless support for custom domains, filtering and search, etc. GMail looks like a simple app, but it's actually a herculean effort on behalf of Google, a multi-billion do…

You say that like Gmail is the market leader here, they're not. Most of the features you mentioned do exist in other services and other services do have features that Gmail doesn't. The OP can definitely make a business out of email, it is far from a solved problem.

Email is not a solved problem? How do I use it daily without thinking about it. Solved in my mind.

Re: Show HN: A personal Gmail

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Post by ianstallings »

mibbitier wrote: post #30
k3n wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You say that like Gmail is the market leader here, they're not. They are as far as I'm concerned. I'm curious, though, who you do consider to be the market leader? I'm going to have a hard time keeping my composure if you say Hotmail (or "Live" mail), Yahoo, or something similar.

Is market leader defined in terms of quality/features? Or number of users?

Market leader would mean number of users most likely. Otherwise it's an opinion on which is a better email client and service.

Re: Show HN: A personal Gmail

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Post by jetti »

sspiff wrote: post #19

This looks really well done, but as a consumer I wouldn't trust a small-timer (no offense) with something as ubiquitous as my email. As a company looking to self-host, however, your product looks very appealing, but then your battling other players than just GMail. I think in the corporate sector, it would be very hard to dislodge Outlook, which is a shame really.

"I think in the corporate sector, it would be very hard to dislodge Outlook, which is a shame really."

I'm not sure how hard it would be to take some Outlook Web Access share away if targeting smaller companies since the cost could be potentially lower and licensing agreements potentially much easier to understand.

Re: Show HN: A personal Gmail

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Post by aniketpant »

Yes. I would surely love to use this as an email client if it works well with my Google Apps account.

And I would definitely be willing to pay a nominal amount for a year long license or a lifetime license.

What I like about your app -

* UI

* Well thought-out panels

* Utilization of white space

What you can possibly work on -

This is one feature that is not there on GMail and I really really crave for it. Sometime I feel the need to create a note for myself for a specific email I have received. But I can't do that. It would be a great addition to the Mail App.

Re: Show HN: A personal Gmail

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Post by cschmidt »

Goranek wrote: post #7

Awesome UI, but I wouldn't pay for it. Email is and should be free

Funny, I feel the opposite. My email is way too important to be left to a free service. I pay for Fastmail, and they do a great job. If I were to have a problem, they provide support.

I greatly prefer that model to letting Google mine my email. As others have said, you are not Google's customers with email, their advertisers are.

Re: Show HN: A personal Gmail

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Post by heliostatic »

I do pay $40/year for Fastmail because I like having a service I pay for that is separate from anything Google offers. I still use Gmail day to day, but the new Fastmail interface is pretty damn good.

I would definitely pay for a premium email service, but design alone wouldn't be enough for me. The key factor in my decision was trust/reliability.

Re: Show HN: A personal Gmail

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Post by jubari »

farmdawgnation wrote: post #36
old-gregg wrote: post #20

Wow, very nice! Please reach out ot me: ev@mailgunhq.com I want to make sure you're not paying too much for Mailgun. We love smart and ambitious customers.

I just want to say that things like this have instantly added to the respect I have for Mailgun as a company. I know that's unrelated to the OP, and I may get down voted for this, but I feel as though for as much as a complain about an absence of good customer service - I would be remiss not to acknowledge it when I see it. Thank you.

I'm with you.

I have had a few questions/issues during development and the live-support was simply brilliant. Meanwhile I switched 2 of my Rails apps from Sendgrid to MailGun.

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