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Grub2 is scary and complicated. Remove grub from the equation, and all the scary goes away.
grub is just a operating system. it is quite good when shit hits the fan
Diskless Linux boot using ZFS, iSCSI and PXE
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Re: Diskless Linux boot using ZFS, iSCSI and PXE
#72Friends don't let friends use grub. rEFInd is _so_ much simpler: one efi entry, one text config file in the efi partition, nothing that needs to change when the kernel updates, and no massive pile of templating and moving parts to mysteriously break dumping you at an impenetrable grub “rescue” shell.
Or just use systemd-boot which uses BLS thus there are no config files.
Re: Diskless Linux boot using ZFS, iSCSI and PXE
#73Friends don't let friends use grub. rEFInd is _so_ much simpler: one efi entry, one text config file in the efi partition, nothing that needs to change when the kernel updates, and no massive pile of templating and moving parts to mysteriously break dumping you at an impenetrable grub “rescue” shell.
> rEFInd is _so_ much simpler TBH I've only used it for Hackintoshes and BSDs. I don't know why you'd want it. But I am finding this hard to post on account of this big hairy grey thing with a long prehensile nose that's in the way... They only work on UEFI. I don't like UEFI. I have kit in near-daily use that doesn't have UEFI at all. GRUB works on BIOS, UEFI, x86, Arm, whatever. It boots Linux, all the BSDs, Haiku,…
Re: Diskless Linux boot using ZFS, iSCSI and PXE
#74Friends don't let friends use grub. rEFInd is _so_ much simpler: one efi entry, one text config file in the efi partition, nothing that needs to change when the kernel updates, and no massive pile of templating and moving parts to mysteriously break dumping you at an impenetrable grub “rescue” shell.
Re: Diskless Linux boot using ZFS, iSCSI and PXE
#75Friends don't let friends use grub. rEFInd is _so_ much simpler: one efi entry, one text config file in the efi partition, nothing that needs to change when the kernel updates, and no massive pile of templating and moving parts to mysteriously break dumping you at an impenetrable grub “rescue” shell.
does refind support secure boot and measured boot? I loathe pretty much anything systemd but systemd-boot gives me this with zero effort, and it's legitimately useful
Re: Diskless Linux boot using ZFS, iSCSI and PXE
#76Friends don't let friends use grub. rEFInd is _so_ much simpler: one efi entry, one text config file in the efi partition, nothing that needs to change when the kernel updates, and no massive pile of templating and moving parts to mysteriously break dumping you at an impenetrable grub “rescue” shell.
Friends don't let friends perpetuate harmful dogmatic FUD that lacks nuance and perspective.
Re: Diskless Linux boot using ZFS, iSCSI and PXE
#77Friends don't let friends use grub. rEFInd is _so_ much simpler: one efi entry, one text config file in the efi partition, nothing that needs to change when the kernel updates, and no massive pile of templating and moving parts to mysteriously break dumping you at an impenetrable grub “rescue” shell.
rEFInd seemed best for me too
Re: Diskless Linux boot using ZFS, iSCSI and PXE
#78Friends don't let friends use grub. rEFInd is _so_ much simpler: one efi entry, one text config file in the efi partition, nothing that needs to change when the kernel updates, and no massive pile of templating and moving parts to mysteriously break dumping you at an impenetrable grub “rescue” shell.
I think that Fedora doesn't know to update its configuration when I install or remove a kernel, so I use rEFInd only to run systemd-boot which is pretty well supported by Fedora. I could probably try letting rEFInd scan the boot partition for kernels or modify/tune kernel-install [1], but why fix something that's not broken?
As a side note, I don't like how by default rEFInd does some things automatically and how it makes the boot menu kind of bloated. I had to do configure it a bit, but at least it lets you include separate configuration files that override the defaults or add menu entries. This is why I don't consider it quite simple; I prefer the more minimalist approach of systemd-boot.
[1]: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/latest/kern...
Re: Diskless Linux boot using ZFS, iSCSI and PXE
#79Friends don't let friends use grub. rEFInd is _so_ much simpler: one efi entry, one text config file in the efi partition, nothing that needs to change when the kernel updates, and no massive pile of templating and moving parts to mysteriously break dumping you at an impenetrable grub “rescue” shell.
Now I use grub, because I don't know much better. I'll check out rEFINd.