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Re: Ads on Apple Maps

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Post by maccard »

eptityri wrote: post #18

> To connect you with relevant businesses and services, we never use information like your precise location or history of interactions with Maps. Instead we focus on contextual information such as search terms, a device’s approximate location, or the area of the map on screen. I’m not sure I understand the distinction between “precise location” and “a device’s approximate location” here. If the latter is still locati…

I don’t support this endeavour but “you are at 123 Fake Street at 9:47am on Thurs May 7” vs “you are in the area of Fake Street/Sham Town on a Weekday Morning”.

Re: Ads on Apple Maps

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Post by f4c39012 »

Jamesbeam wrote: post #25

From my experience Google Maps is the superior product. The only reason I kept using Apple Maps was because I wasn’t molested with ads. Now that this will obviously change, why should I keep using Apple Maps? At least they should have kept it ad-free for people already paying a premium for their Apple One Premium subscription. I have less and less incentives to stay in the Apple ecosystem, this is just another nail i…

Depends what you're looking for. If I'm looking for businesses or streetview or 3D I'll use Google Maps. If I want to explore I'll use openstreetmap. Sometimes I'll use public rights of way mapping or parking zone boundaries on local council websites, or hiking-specific mapping apps that overlay routes. Having one mapping app that does it all would be nice, but each serves their purpose

Re: Ads on Apple Maps

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Post by drcongo »

I used to quite like Apple Maps, but then I tried to switch to it for navigation in CarPlay and discovered why so many people hate it. Me: "Hey Siri, navigate to {exactly the same hospital I went to yesterday}", Siri: "I found a McDonalds 309 miles away, it has a trip advisor rating of 2 stars, want that one?".

I've never sworn at Siri so much as I do in my car.

Re: Ads on Apple Maps

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Post by testfrequency »

So now when I search “Ramen” I can be directed to the business who has the social media team and marketing budget instead of just surfacing really good ramen as the top result.

Steve Jobs would be sad to see the soul of Apple left with him to the grave. To all the people who argue Apple is a better company since, I’d argue the intent of Apple was never to insert itself into every economic, opportunistic business of the world. A reminder that it’s respectable to have a focused business and not feel like you need to do it all. The world would be a better place.

Re: Ads on Apple Maps

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Post by throwaway473825 »

shantara wrote: post #37
RickS wrote: post #4

heh. Could the apple maps team ever be paid a higher compliment? They really, truly, made it. I remember 15 years ago when apple maps was an absolute laughingstock that couldn't hold a candle to the big guys. But look at them now. They made it genuinely good. It'd been my only map app for years until I downloaded google maps for a road trip and was perplexed by all the squares I didn't ask for telling me about Arby's…

The quality of Apple maps is highly dependent on where you live. Every time I check their release notes, I see “we’ve added a custom 3d model for this one landmark in a random US city”, which has zero impact on me or 99.99% of their users. Meanwhile, in my home city it took more than 3 months for a newly opened gym to appear of Apple maps, way way slower than on Google or OSM maps.

Of the big tech companies, Apple is definitely the one that has embraced America First the most. If you live outside the US, you get features later (if at all) and have to pay more for that privilege.

Re: Ads on Apple Maps

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Post by coldtea »

avazhi wrote: post #31

Any indications the new CEO will be less inclined to embrace enshittification like this? I say enshittification but it’s a bit of a misnomer because Apple Maps hasn’t ever really not been shit, but anyway…

>Any indications the new CEO will be less inclined to embrace enshittification like this?

The linked page for ads on maps says "Coming soon". He didn't cut it off, so looks like he'll be complicit in the enshitification

Re: Ads on Apple Maps

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Post by microtonal »

lloeki wrote: post #26
Razengan wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple claims to be the champion of privacy While letting Facebook, TikTok and others secretly track you for years, across devices AND DEVICE REINSTALLS, through Apple's iCloud Keychain API, to store data that users cannot see or delete on iOS, except through the macOS Keychain app, and even then it's dubious if that's all that's actually stored.

I'm not sure I follow, presumably if these are using the Keychain API they're doing so via the app, to which you must be logged in, so they are already tracking you and the keychain thing achieves... nothing?

There is an interesting prior discussion here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39635616

Re: Ads on Apple Maps

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Post by Razengan »

jahnu wrote: post #34
Razengan wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple claims to be the champion of privacy While letting Facebook, TikTok and others secretly track you for years, across devices AND DEVICE REINSTALLS, through Apple's iCloud Keychain API, to store data that users cannot see or delete on iOS, except through the macOS Keychain app, and even then it's dubious if that's all that's actually stored.

Can you link to a good article or post about this? Thanks!

I've been ranting about this since 5 years, and every time it mostly just gets ignored. You can Google or ask ChatGPT about the iCloud Keychain API.

And to see for yourself, open the Keychain Access app on your Mac, and search for "Facebook", "TikTok" etc (that data is accessible by those apps on all your other Apple devices too)

Re: Ads on Apple Maps

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Post by Razengan »

xuki wrote: post #28
lloeki wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure I follow, presumably if these are using the Keychain API they're doing so via the app, to which you must be logged in, so they are already tracking you and the keychain thing achieves... nothing?

The keychain data of an app on iOS is NEVER removed from your device, unless you completely wipe the device. This has been the behavior since the beginning.

> unless you completely wipe the device.

then it comes back after you sign into the same Apple ID on that device or even a NEW device!

and of course the crap remains on your other devices.

Funnily enough Apple allowed users to delete that shit for a while, during a certain iOS beta, but then backtracked before release.

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