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Post by ethanwillis »

tomhow wrote: post #199
ethanwillis wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So if it's not guillotines and instead massed autonomous attack drones that would be an acceptable way to discuss violence? Just want to make sure I understand you fully.

Please don't, in one comment, call me “naive and childish” then try this kind of switcheroo the next. The topic of “guillotines” relates to performative violence against fellow citizens over political/economic disagreement. National defense is a different topic. They're both important topics and if they’re going to be discussed they deserve to be discussed earnestly. Glorification of violence has never been within th…

Right so then that answers my question. Violence is okay as long as it is directed outwards and said to be defensive, thank you for answering.

I'll remember this when my country of which i'm a citizen uses these same defensive weapons to secure any mineral wealth in Australia.

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Post by pseudohadamard »

JuniperMesos wrote: post #183
BryantD wrote: post #110

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Even if it’s true that most unhoused people are mentally ill — and I agree with Tim’s reply — you have must consider causation versus correlation. Is an unhoused person dysfunctional because they were always that way and thus doomed to lose shelter, or are they dysfunctional because living on the streets is extremely damaging? You see this question a lot when discussing drug usage among homeless. The percentages of a…

I hear a lot of accounts of relatively-normal people who talk about one member of their family who is homeless and living on the streets because they stopped letting that family member live with them because they did things like violently attack children in their home, or steal money in order to buy drugs. So this makes me think that a lot of visibly homeless people were in fact dysfunctional before they became homel…

Friend of mine is in a situation like that, they live next to subsidised housing for people who'd otherwise be homeless and you really, really don't want to live there. It's a good week when armed police have to turn up less than once a week. They're actually quite an SJW so you know it's really bad when even they say "some people have to be made homeless".

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Post by tomhow »

ethanwillis wrote: post #201
tomhow wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't, in one comment, call me “naive and childish” then try this kind of switcheroo the next. The topic of “guillotines” relates to performative violence against fellow citizens over political/economic disagreement. National defense is a different topic. They're both important topics and if they’re going to be discussed they deserve to be discussed earnestly. Glorification of violence has never been within th…

Right so then that answers my question. Violence is okay as long as it is directed outwards and said to be defensive, thank you for answering. I'll remember this when my country of which i'm a citizen uses these same defensive weapons to secure any mineral wealth in Australia.

This is a site for curious people who want to have intelligent discussions about interesting topics. My job here is to uphold the guidelines, not engage in political arguments. If your response to my moderation effort is to invoke a whole lot of topics that are unrelated to the HN guidelines, descending even to my own nationality, you’re showing some strong signals that you’re not interested in participating here in a way that’s aligned with the site’s purpose. Other commenters were trying to discuss the topic curiously and explore nonviolent ways of resolving political disputes and you kept trying to drag the topic back to violence. That style of discussion, and the rhetorical trickery you keep trying to deploy against me, do not belong on HN. This is only a place where people want to participate because others make the effort to raise the standards.

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Post by pocksuppet »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #152
christkv wrote: post #53

In Europe governments make up such a big part of GDP now in some cases nearly half of it that it becomes silly to talk about the evil capitalist. We should be talking about the graft and poor spending of that money.

> In Europe governments make up such a big part of GDP now in some cases nearly half of it ... Oh more than half. In France it's 59% officially. And then there are the fake "private" companies that are actually owned by french-state apparatchiks and operating like the various state monopolies (like utility companies): so the real number is higher than 59%. France has probably more than 2/3rd of its GDP that is public…

You'd rather be poor in the USA than a slave in... modern France?

Re: Life During Class Wartime

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Post by ethanwillis »

tomhow wrote: post #203
ethanwillis wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right so then that answers my question. Violence is okay as long as it is directed outwards and said to be defensive, thank you for answering. I'll remember this when my country of which i'm a citizen uses these same defensive weapons to secure any mineral wealth in Australia.

This is a site for curious people who want to have intelligent discussions about interesting topics. My job here is to uphold the guidelines, not engage in political arguments. If your response to my moderation effort is to invoke a whole lot of topics that are unrelated to the HN guidelines, descending even to my own nationality, you’re showing some strong signals that you’re not interested in participating here in…

You're the one who inserted yourself in the discussion when I clarified my question. I wasn't dragging the discussion away from your preferred path any more than others were dragging it away from mine.

If you don't want to engage in political arguments then don't involve yourself in a subthread that wasn't even flagged.

In either case i'll leave and let you keep your echo chamber.

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Post by lovich »

ethanwillis wrote: post #206
tomhow wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a site for curious people who want to have intelligent discussions about interesting topics. My job here is to uphold the guidelines, not engage in political arguments. If your response to my moderation effort is to invoke a whole lot of topics that are unrelated to the HN guidelines, descending even to my own nationality, you’re showing some strong signals that you’re not interested in participating here in…

You're the one who inserted yourself in the discussion when I clarified my question. I wasn't dragging the discussion away from your preferred path any more than others were dragging it away from mine. If you don't want to engage in political arguments then don't involve yourself in a subthread that wasn't even flagged. In either case i'll leave and let you keep your echo chamber.

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Re: Life During Class Wartime

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Post by inglor_cz »

nullocator wrote: post #186
inglor_cz wrote: post #70

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Two of the three (housing and education) don't seem to be caused by that. Neither restrictive zoning, nor the administrative bloat in academia that caused tuition to skyrocket, were lobbied into existence by people like Bezos and Musk. They are result of tireless lobbying of relatively unimportant people seeking their own little rent.

Aren't most of the housing issues in this country NIMBYism and zoning? NIMBYism lead by vocal, wealthy property owners? Zoning controlled by governments lead and captured by wealthy and corporate interests?

I don't live in the US, but NIMBYism is rampant here as well and all the practical instances I have witnessed were initiated and carried by dyspeptic pensioners with sincere hatred towards any change.

"But CHILDREN will SCREAM here!" shouted one such lady at me when I dared express my opposition against her petition, which demanded a stop to a "megalomaniac" plan to build approximately fifteen apartments half a kilometer away.

"You were a child once, too," I said.

"Sure, but I was A GOOD BEHAVED ONE, NOT LIKE TODAY'S BRATS!" at that time, she was positively screaming as well.

M'kay.

The situation in the US may be different, but the few YIMBY blogs and articles I have read mostly described their efforts as an uphill battle against progressive politicians who were certain that development leads to gentrification and gentrification is bad. Given that the YIMBY movement originated in California, this may just be an aftereffect of Californian politics. But in general, it is blue cities and regions that are known for very restrictive zoning policies.

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