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Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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> presumably at a huge loss Why do you say that? I was under the impression that everyone in the datacenter business was printing money.

Oracle certainly isn't.

Says who? Oracle spends a lot of money to get ready for AI customers like OpenAI. They aren't there yet. They can't lose money serving what they don't have.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Say what you like about Sam Altman, but given how Anthropic is scrambling to sign capacity deals for compute we can sure say he was right about the capcity build out needed.

That’s correct, but from what I understand his move was also strategic: to choke the market.

Having said that, Anthropic’s position is fully understandable, as Sam took a very large risk here, and OpenAI’s future is all but certain.

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Are you worried about Google too? They're selling compute. Same with Microsoft, and Amazon. As far as I know Anthropic is really the only one that's compute-bound.

Google, Microsoft, and Amazon's business model include selling compute - SpaceX, not so much.

Why not? They can sell what makes sense for them, like surplus capacity, especially when there are desperate buyers.

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The permitting slowdown is if it want to connect to the grid. If you want to run solar behind the meter, you can go nuts.

Sure but acquiring enough land to build solar profitably near a DC that can hook up to the big US interconnects is very expensive and will often be blocked by residents. If you want to build solar where there are few people and cheap input costs, then you need to transmit the power to the DC.

I keep hearing about brand new data centers they want to create. Seems reasonable to go to sunny, enormous, business friendly Texas and surround the data center site with acres of solar panels, batteries, emergency gas, and whatever sized grid connection you can get approved immediately.

If the DC is for training or text inference, latency seems irrelevant, so go where you can quickly plop down power.

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For me it's the opposite. I almost never hit hourly limit, but I hit weekly limit in about 5 days.

Would be more meaningful if everyone said what plan they are on, as there are 3 different ones that users could be discussing.

Hit weekly limits all the time with Pro. Too cheap to go for Max.

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SpaceX have presented on this and it's fairly straightforward and they already do it with starlink satellites, just at a larger scale. Sound like you are the uniformed one (or an EDS victim)

Starlink satellites don't generate the sort of heat a datacenter full of GPUs does. The ISS has enormous radiators, and it's only in space because it's a space station. Putting datacenters there is just goofy given the amount of available space on the ground .

All of that has been repeatedly addressed in anything that discusses it, if you care to try to understand. It has ~nothing to do with available space, the US grid can’t handle the current rate of expansion. It’s bad enough that apparently Span, the smart electrical panel company, is pitching a box full of Blackwells that’ll sit outside new construction homes and use all the headroom on residential 200A circuits. Space is starting to look reasonable.

Related, US readers should call their reps and ask them to support a successor to EPRA, the Energy Permitting Reform Act, the vast majority of the generation that’s waiting for approval is from clean energy sources. It nearly got over the line before the last Congress ended, and it’s one of the most impactful things we can do to combat climate change, combined with electrifying various carbon intensive activities.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Anthropic needs any compute they can get. So if Elon wants to build orbital data centers Anthropic would be happy to run models on it. There isn't really any doubt Elon can build orbital data centers the question is if they are economical compared to earth based.

What are you talking about There is no doubt that it's not a serious idea.

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Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Colossus 1 datacenter is the one using illegal power, is poisoning the air for poor communities near Memphis, and is potentially poisoning the water. It's likely the additional demand on the grid will cause massive blackouts during extreme weather events, putting residents at further risk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_(supercomputer)#Envir... So you can put Anthropic on your list of companies that like to t…

Not every allegation that appears in print is true. One should be very skeptical about these kinds of allegations, especially when there are deep-pocketed corporations involved who can be sued or pressured to settle in the face of sufficiently "plausible and persistent" (to borrow Hazlitt's term) claims of harm done by their operations.

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Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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People are so cynical on HN. Just move to API billing if not getting enough subsidized compute is that big a deal for you?

Is that what you do when you prepay for a year to get a discount and the supplier just says "oh I'll just give you half of what you paid for"? You "just move to pay again for the rest"?

Sorry, were you told you'd be given a specific number of tokens when you subscribed?

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Is that what you do when you prepay for a year to get a discount and the supplier just says "oh I'll just give you half of what you paid for"? You "just move to pay again for the rest"?

Sorry, were you told you'd be given a specific number of tokens when you subscribed?

Yes? Weren't you? Did you think you were buying a token lottery, where you'd have a billion tokens one day and zero the next?
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