Is anyone concerned about these services and China’s National Intelligence Law?
Eh I’m using it for stuff where there is nothing proprietary or identifiable.
DeepSeek V4 Pro at 75% off until 31 May
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#62Is anyone concerned about these services and China’s National Intelligence Law?
I mean I can't believe I have to say this explicitly but it should be assumed that any data you send to China can and will be used against our interest by the CCP...
Kicking myself when my little vibe coded widget to notify me when socks go on sale that does not and never has functioned properly is wielded as a mighty scepter to topple western hegemony
Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro at 75% off until 31 May
#63What coding agent(ideally CLI) have people found works well with this?
Occasionally I go and try different agents with openrouter models, but nothing seems to really get close to the proprietary ones like claude-code.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
this is the pitch - it's open source, run it yourself. But >99% of people will not have the hardware needed to run these models at a high enough quality to be close to SOTA. So they will run the open-source models on CCP systems for a good price.
What I mean is you can use providers who also host deepseek models for pennies without touching deepseek itself.
I’m only seeing 3x the cost of DeepSeek for other providers on Open Router. Is there a better place to look?
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
yes. imagine getting denied at the border or something because of data you shared with deep seek,WeChat or any other china centric service
Are you actually planning on travelling out of the country right now? It's probably not a good idea even if you don't use Chinese products, which by the way you definitely do.
The people that travel out of the country are typically not the same ones aligned with the current administration. The vast majority of the MAGA base are more likely to not have a passport, while a large portion have probably never left their state.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
yes. imagine getting denied at the border or something because of data you shared with deep seek,WeChat or any other china centric service
Definitely would select the frowny face if that happened.
Might as well answer yes to the "are you a subversive" question
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Eh, I'd be more concerned about the Three-Letters and the One country that dropped an A-bomb.
>the One country that dropped an A-bomb. i'd like to point out that the soviet RDS-3 was an airdropped A-bomb. I get that you mean 'in anger', but I don't feel that bad being a pedant against a propagandist statement that's also pedantically wrong.
I don't think anyone will ever be confused by the "only country to use the bomb" in this context. Your pedantry is not something to not feel bad about as it does nothing constructive to the conversation
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
What I mean is you can use providers who also host deepseek models for pennies without touching deepseek itself.
I’m only seeing 3x the cost of DeepSeek for other providers on Open Router. Is there a better place to look?
I haven't really had this issue but deepinfra claims to have us servers and looks pretty cheap to me.
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
yes. imagine getting denied at the border or something because of data you shared with deep seek,WeChat or any other china centric service
the US does that to you too, for not liking your opinions about particular parties or intelligence aparati.
I think martin_henk is fully aware of that and it's why of all the examples of how a government can use your data, he picked this one...
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
>the One country that dropped an A-bomb. i'd like to point out that the soviet RDS-3 was an airdropped A-bomb. I get that you mean 'in anger', but I don't feel that bad being a pedant against a propagandist statement that's also pedantically wrong.
I don't think anyone will ever be confused by the "only country to use the bomb" in this context. Your pedantry is not something to not feel bad about as it does nothing constructive to the conversation
> the One country that dropped an A-bomb
> "only country to use the bomb"
I was confused. Two very different statements but I assume they refer to the US who dropped two A-bombs (Hiroshima and Nagasaki) in anger.