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BYD overtakes Tesla and Kia as the best-selling EV brand in key overseas markets

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Re: BYD overtakes Tesla and Kia as the best-selling EV brand in key overseas markets

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Post by IncreasePosts »

plaidthunder wrote: post #27
IncreasePosts wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A BYD seal is basically comparable to a model 3, except it has a more classic car aesthetic as opposed to a giant screen. What are we missing out on?

Competition. Lower prices. Better repairability.

A BYD seal is between $35k and $50k USD in various non US, non China countries that I checked Mexico, Germany, australia, Thailand.

Competition is great but it doesn't mean that the cars in America are bad. The lada was a failure of a car compared to other similar cars available elsewhere. That is not the case here.

Re: BYD overtakes Tesla and Kia as the best-selling EV brand in key overseas markets

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Post by leereeves »

threethirtytwo wrote: post #47
throwaway_7274 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was glued to the window while flying over southern China recently. There is so much infrastructure you can see from the air, even in fairly rural provinces. So many bridges. So many wind turbines. It is visibly a country on the move, a country that believes in itself and its ability to do things. The Chinese Century is increasingly palpable, for better or worse.

A Chinese person who was here in the US as a foreign student once commented to me that he was so surprised that the United States was like the country side. He didn’t realize how rural the country was. This was at UCLA which is in LA which is the second biggest city in the US.

Presumably referring to population density? People like the low density in California.

Re: BYD overtakes Tesla and Kia as the best-selling EV brand in key overseas markets

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Post by threethirtytwo »

baq wrote: post #17
hdhdhsjsbdh wrote: post #3

BYD has to me become an icon of US decline vs Chinese expansion. It’s just one example among many of China charting the way forward and innovating while the US recedes further into backward-looking, protectionist policy. See: US politicians on both sides trying to ban BYD imports rather than incentivizing stiffer competition from US automakers. Another example: massive growth in Chinese renewables while the US opens…

BYD has pretty amazing tech to be honest, but putting protectionism as an argument against the US and pro BYD in the same sentence is naive at best. The CCP allowed BYD to exist and the CCP can end BYD in a single weekend regardless of any human right concerns elsewhere.

The US has thousands of atrocities under its belt. For this aspect, the US and China tie in terms of the leaderboard.

Re: BYD overtakes Tesla and Kia as the best-selling EV brand in key overseas markets

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Post by varispeed »

It's a shame their cars are being devoid of its own identity. If you squint you might think it's an Audi or Range Rover.

A bit like wearing Adiboss or Gacci clothes. Nothing wrong with that.

Hopefully BYD will make something original and with style on its own.

But counter example is e.g. new Audi look like Kia.

Funny.

Re: BYD overtakes Tesla and Kia as the best-selling EV brand in key overseas markets

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Post by klodolph »

threethirtytwo wrote: post #47
throwaway_7274 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was glued to the window while flying over southern China recently. There is so much infrastructure you can see from the air, even in fairly rural provinces. So many bridges. So many wind turbines. It is visibly a country on the move, a country that believes in itself and its ability to do things. The Chinese Century is increasingly palpable, for better or worse.

A Chinese person who was here in the US as a foreign student once commented to me that he was so surprised that the United States was like the country side. He didn’t realize how rural the country was. This was at UCLA which is in LA which is the second biggest city in the US.

People are also surprised how rural much of China is.

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Post by standeven »

Karrot_Kream wrote: post #31
hdhdhsjsbdh wrote: post #3

BYD has to me become an icon of US decline vs Chinese expansion. It’s just one example among many of China charting the way forward and innovating while the US recedes further into backward-looking, protectionist policy. See: US politicians on both sides trying to ban BYD imports rather than incentivizing stiffer competition from US automakers. Another example: massive growth in Chinese renewables while the US opens…

> Another example: massive growth in Chinese renewables while the US opens up national parks for drilling and cancels solar/wind projects. You occasionally see a heartwarming post: “California adds solar panels over a canal” and it just looks cute and kind of sad compared to the massive, ambitious, and technologically superior build out of Chinese renewables. Coal is still the majority of generation capacity [1] in C…

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Re: BYD overtakes Tesla and Kia as the best-selling EV brand in key overseas markets

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Post by stetrain »

Pfhortune wrote: post #5

Would be great if we could buy/drive these in the US. Funny how we have a "free market" only when it is convenient for certain interests...

They're all over the place in Mexico City. It'll be interesting as these EVs start to show up along the northern and southern borders traveling within the US.

Re: BYD overtakes Tesla and Kia as the best-selling EV brand in key overseas markets

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Post by raverbashing »

BYD ships

USA boomer car companies run a competition on who can build the biggest crappy SUVs around sold to other boomers who now look aghast at pump prices

Europe boomer car companies can't overrun their nit-pickiness and analysis paralysis and wonder why consumers are picking the car with screens that actually work like a modern device and don't have subscription horns or some other BS like that

Re: BYD overtakes Tesla and Kia as the best-selling EV brand in key overseas markets

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Post by TremendousJudge »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #21
plaidthunder wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The world before all of the big beautiful tariffs. It's depressing that we can't buy BYD in the USA. It's feeling more and more like being stuck with a Lada in the 1980s.

A BYD seal is basically comparable to a model 3, except it has a more classic car aesthetic as opposed to a giant screen. What are we missing out on?

and what's the tesla equivalent for the BYD dolphin?
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