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Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by aurareturn »

VortexLain wrote: post #130
aurareturn wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plot twist but makes perfect sense for both companies. Anthropic gets the compute they so desperately need to keep growing. Elon rents out compute that xAI couldn't make use of due to little demand for Grok. SpaceX gets revenue on the books for IPO. PS. I want to translate this part: We’re very intentional about where we’ll add capacity—partnering with democratic countries whose legal and regulatory frameworks suppor…

>we'll even buy compute from China if we can sell Anthropic models there. Considering that Anthropic mass-bans Chinese users accounts based on using VPN (used to circumvent the Chinese firewall) and then demands an ID or a residence permit of a country where Claude officially works to ensure that the user doesn't live in China, seems unlikely.

If the Chinese government tells Anthropic they can freely sell Claude in China, Dario is suddenly going to be kissing China's ass instead of saying how we can't let China win the AGI race for democracy and western values.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by everfrustrated »

quinncom wrote: post #20
Philpax wrote: post #5

Well, this sucks :/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_(supercomputer)#Envir...

One of the reasons I refuse to use xAI’s models is because of the outsized negative environmental impacts of the methane gas turbines. Now I have to avoid Claude too.

You realize natural gas is one of the more environmentally friendly methods of generating power. Lots of work went into moving to natural gas generation to improve the environmental impact for electricity generation.

This is nothing like burning coal.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by fancyfredbot »

boldlybold wrote: post #129
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #77

Colossus 1 datacenter is the one using illegal power, is poisoning the air for poor communities near Memphis, and is potentially poisoning the water. It's likely the additional demand on the grid will cause massive blackouts during extreme weather events, putting residents at further risk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_(supercomputer)#Envir... So you can put Anthropic on your list of companies that like to t…

Illegal is a strong term here. While the wiki link you included indicates there might be some permitting nuances, I've seen nothing claiming the power is "illegal."

The ethics are questionable, legal or not. Anthropic are tarnishing their image again here.

Not sure how much it hurts then compared to blocking openclaw though.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by nprateem »

cedws wrote: post #111
arian_ wrote: post #14

Anthropic renting out the data center Elon built for Grok is the kind of plot twist you can't make up.

It was pretty obvious to me that the merger was a way of quietly shutting xAI down in a way that keeps investors happy. With it also being used as a vehicle to offload the Twitter debt to the public, he certainly has good accountants.

Yeah it's corporate subprime. Bundle a load of overpriced "assets" with made up valuations into something that's actually valuable, then shove it on the public markets so everyone has to buy it in their index trackers.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by cyclopeanutopia »

Sevii wrote: post #76
gpugreg wrote: post #25

> As part of this agreement, we have also expressed interest in partnering with SpaceX to develop multiple gigawatts of orbital AI compute capacity. Anthropic is either taking this space business more serious than the general public, or posting this sentence was part of the deal to get the compute.

Anthropic needs any compute they can get. So if Elon wants to build orbital data centers Anthropic would be happy to run models on it. There isn't really any doubt Elon can build orbital data centers the question is if they are economical compared to earth based.

What are you talking about

There is no doubt that it's not a serious idea.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by 23rf »

Sevii wrote: post #76
gpugreg wrote: post #25

> As part of this agreement, we have also expressed interest in partnering with SpaceX to develop multiple gigawatts of orbital AI compute capacity. Anthropic is either taking this space business more serious than the general public, or posting this sentence was part of the deal to get the compute.

Anthropic needs any compute they can get. So if Elon wants to build orbital data centers Anthropic would be happy to run models on it. There isn't really any doubt Elon can build orbital data centers the question is if they are economical compared to earth based.

I love how this line of thinking completely avoids the issue re. improvements in local models.

I suppose if you are desperate to justify a large investment this what you would do - frame the story in a particular way.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by everfrustrated »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #124
Rover222 wrote: post #83

Reading the comments here again surprises me how in an anti-Elon bubble most folks are. They are renting out spare Colossus 1 capacity. Colossus 2 is still coming online. Orbital data centers are really the plan in the next few years. XAi is still behind, but not a disaster considering how late they entered (and Elon’s unfortunate fixation on anime characters). SpaceX is extremely uniquely positioned to crush the res…

> SpaceX is extremely uniquely positioned to crush the rest of the world combined in order to orbital data centers Sure, as long as your data center is 3x4m - size of a Starlink satellite (think Spinal Tap Stone Henge) . Anything bigger than that (i.e. actual data center sized) is going to require some assembly. I've heard TeslaBot is good at folding shirts, and serving drinks (at least while teleoperated) - perhaps…

Orbital DCs is blocked on starship because they _arent_ doing starlink sized satellites.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by causal »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #77

Colossus 1 datacenter is the one using illegal power, is poisoning the air for poor communities near Memphis, and is potentially poisoning the water. It's likely the additional demand on the grid will cause massive blackouts during extreme weather events, putting residents at further risk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_(supercomputer)#Envir... So you can put Anthropic on your list of companies that like to t…

So I was just Googling this, and apparently most datacenters don't pay any state tax on revenue generated by said datacenter? Huge loophole if true, no wonder capital investment in datacenters is so high. [0]

[0] https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/regulations/how-are-data...

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