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StarFighter 16-Inch

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Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

#282

The prices are still way too high. You're better off buying a Dell XPS on sale, I saw one for about 800$ the other day with 32 GB of ram. Dell has committed to actual Linux support. I don't feel like paying a Linux nerd tax when most Windows laptops are fine. Lenovo seems to have the best support here. Otherwise enjoy the adventure in driver land!

Not just 'way', These prices are downright absurd and anyone who buys one is either giving a donation or an idiot. $2000 for the very cheapest first-gen Core ultra CPU is nuts. You can buy a used, faster XPS 15 OLED 4K for literally $1000 less. Like, Dell sells refurbished the Precision 5560 with the 11850H, 4K OLED, same ram and storage amounts, and a bonus Nvidia dedicated GPU for $560. Did I mention that the ram i…

I thought that sounded good, so I looked it up. I can find Dells with 1920x1080 screens for ~$560, but the 4K ones, even refurbished, are closer to $2,000. But maybe I just wasn't looking in the right place?

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

#284
That keyboard layout is a deal breaker for me. Why do companies have to change things up all the time? Why can't they just go with T-shaped arrow keys and a standard layout?

It completely dwarfs the otherwise great hardware.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

#285

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Unfortunately most of it will likely be HBM and datacenter GPUs and therefore useless for consumers.

Datacenter GPUs are still self contained and speak over pcie though, right? So its a form factor and cooling problem, not an insurmountable one.

Maybe not insurmountable in the "laws of physics" sense?

However, it may be so costly in cobbled-together parts, and in time to deal with unsupported drivers and/or VBIOS, that it is not worth it compared to using a proper server hardware with proper SXM sockets. Nvidia is also doing a lot of new, exciting things with networking that may make their SXM-based GPUs require even more just-so hardware support as time goes on.

Getting older SXM3 GPUs (i.e. for V100's, from 2017) working via PCIe adapters has been done reliably. However, here is someone who did that successfully, and spent a chunk of time last year trying to do the same for SMX5 (H100) and failing:

https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/sxm5-h100-...

We were all spoiled by the era from 2005-2020, when you could squint at a "server" configuration and see that it was expensive, high-binned, commodity hardware with some extra RAS and OOBM features. You could buy parts harvested from a retired server based on Xeon E5-1680v3 and drop them in your workstation. Or you could buy an entire single-socket Xeon E5 v3 server, plop in a GPU, and mostly use it as a workstation! As-is!

Now the serious servers have SOCAMM memory, 400Gbps networking, EDSFF SSDs, maybe are configured for CXL 3.0, et cetera. The hardware itself is so divergent that it isn't swap-in-plug-and-play with desktops, even for some high-end workstations.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

#286

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>You Linux freaks should just buy a MacBook Pro. It’s number one for a reason Yes and that reason is marketing.

I haven't had an Apple product in a decade but the shear efficiency of their CPUs is pretty impressive. Been thinking about picking up a MacBook Pro or Air (which doesn't even have fans) for travel because I'm getting really tired of lugging around my relatively heavy and inefficient Windows laptop

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

#287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The laptop SKU probably would be country specific due to keyboard layouts though.

Forgot about that one! And EU devices need an engraved trash-can (WEEE symbol) https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/product-requirements/l...

Nice Glyph for the delete key! I wonder if that would be seen as compliance...?

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

#288

That keyboard layout is a deal breaker for me. Why do companies have to change things up all the time? Why can't they just go with T-shaped arrow keys and a standard layout? It completely dwarfs the otherwise great hardware.

Are you referring to the UK layout? Or the keys on the side? It's all tradeoffs but full size cursor keys and a line of line/page keys are arguably as good as it gets.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

#289

Oh look, another generic Macbook clone.

Lol these are the most refined Linux flagship hardware manufacturers in the world. No clone.

If your definition of refinement is "looks like a Macbook", sure. Personally, if I wanted a laptop that looks like a Macbook, I'd buy a Macbook.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

#290
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Is there something new here? The processor options seem to be two generation old Intel, one generation old Intel, and one generation old AMD.

This might be driven by coreboot support?

Yes, believe it takes a year or so for full support of a new chip/set. They are finally making progress on AMD as well, despite poor docs.

https://us.starlabs.systems/blogs/news/coreboot-on-the-amd-s...

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