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Singapore introduces caning for boys who bully others at school

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Re: Singapore introduces caning for boys who bully others at school

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Post by lava_pidgeon »

elevation wrote: post #19
oompydoompy74 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Deterrent can be an effective form of rehab. A former coworker of mine walks funny because he had polio as a child, and his father worked for the railway union after WWII. He told me one day in high school, one of his friends came to school with bruises couldn’t hide, inflicted by his drunk father. Everyone in school knew, everyone in town knew, but no one did anything. My coworker informed his dad, about the egregio…

And today the drunk father would lose the responsibility for his child which is a better and non violent answer.

Re: Singapore introduces caning for boys who bully others at school

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Post by lava_pidgeon »

rvnx wrote: post #6
lioeters wrote: post #4

Solution against bullies: a bigger bully.

Works really well, and doing nothing is exactly why western societies are fucked up. New generations do whatever they want and do not face any consequences. Have you seen how much of a shithole France became due to street criminality and teenagers attacking people ?

Why are western countries fucked up?

Re: Singapore introduces caning for boys who bully others at school

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Post by lava_pidgeon »

Btw, besides using violence on school children is barbaric this action is also sexism. Young boys generally suffer more from violence. Now the teacher can add it.

Besides, why is the teacher right? They make mistakes , they can be racist etc.

Just stupd

Re: Singapore introduces caning for boys who bully others at school

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Post by [deleted] »

lava_pidgeon wrote: post #40
jitler wrote: post #23

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> Rehabilitation and figuring out why they are bullying is the correct response in a civilized society. Your so called “civilized societies” have continuously failed at this though. You can’t keep failing and then demand your method is the correct method.

How Germany or Denmark or Sweden failed?

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Re: Singapore introduces caning for boys who bully others at school

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Post by 1718627440 »

oompydoompy74 wrote: post #11

I didn’t expect to open the comments and find people who were pro beating children on Hacker News. I find this abuse horrific and you should speak to a therapist if you think this is okay. Absolutely barbaric behavior.

Locking people in a room also isn't pleasant, yet we allow it, because we think it has a deterring effect. Hitting people with sticks or tear gas, forcing there limbs together with steel also isn't very nice. Neither is forcing people in a plane and sending them off into dangerous environments just because they happen to be born there.

Re: Singapore introduces caning for boys who bully others at school

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Post by dogleash »

oompydoompy74 wrote: post #11

I didn’t expect to open the comments and find people who were pro beating children on Hacker News. I find this abuse horrific and you should speak to a therapist if you think this is okay. Absolutely barbaric behavior.

>I find this abuse horrific and you should speak to a therapist if you think this is okay.

This is unintentionally hilarious. You're not arguing the moral point, you're using the same kind of reasoning that leads to gay conversion therapy. It roughly equates to: "that's not in accord with my social norms, therefore you need professional intervention."

(Perfunctory disclaimer that I don't support caning. I am not arguing for it, I am only pointing out problems with a statement against it.)

Re: Singapore introduces caning for boys who bully others at school

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Post by 1718627440 »

yetihehe wrote: post #13
niemandhier wrote: post #9

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In a friends school in Denmark the teacher could decide that your family had to host a party for all the kids at the family home, so they could get to know each other better, and that was repeated until all involved parties stoped misbehaving.

Good when all parents are able to host such party. I would say that in Poland, most of parents with a misbehaving kid are barely able to throw a party for their kid and several of his/her friends. Many times people complain about the cost of school supplies for their kids already.

Then it is an even bigger deterrent. And maybe it forces people to ask their neighbors for help, which can also improve the social dynamic. People bond over helping each other.

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Post by oompydoompy74 »

dogleash wrote: post #46
oompydoompy74 wrote: post #11

I didn’t expect to open the comments and find people who were pro beating children on Hacker News. I find this abuse horrific and you should speak to a therapist if you think this is okay. Absolutely barbaric behavior.

>I find this abuse horrific and you should speak to a therapist if you think this is okay. This is unintentionally hilarious. You're not arguing the moral point, you're using the same kind of reasoning that leads to gay conversion therapy. It roughly equates to: "that's not in accord with my social norms, therefore you need professional intervention." (Perfunctory disclaimer that I don't support caning. I am not argu…

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Re: Singapore introduces caning for boys who bully others at school

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Post by cindyllm »

oompydoompy74 wrote: post #11

I didn’t expect to open the comments and find people who were pro beating children on Hacker News. I find this abuse horrific and you should speak to a therapist if you think this is okay. Absolutely barbaric behavior.

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Re: Singapore introduces caning for boys who bully others at school

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Post by Tadpole9181 »

1718627440 wrote: post #45
oompydoompy74 wrote: post #11

I didn’t expect to open the comments and find people who were pro beating children on Hacker News. I find this abuse horrific and you should speak to a therapist if you think this is okay. Absolutely barbaric behavior.

Locking people in a room also isn't pleasant, yet we allow it, because we think it has a deterring effect. Hitting people with sticks or tear gas, forcing there limbs together with steel also isn't very nice. Neither is forcing people in a plane and sending them off into dangerous environments just because they happen to be born there.

Locking criminals away to protect innocent people is different than caning and you know that.

And I'm pretty sure the type of person speaking out against outdated, abusive child rearing doesn't support the use of cudgels or tear gas in law enforcement or unsafe/cruel deportation.

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