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Re: Knitting bullshit

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Post by firefoxd »

I didn't have the words to explain to my mother why those AI health/advice/story/etc videos she shares are harmful.

> While a liar displays an underlying respect for the truth in the very act of intentionally distorting it, “the essence of bullshit”, Frankfurt writes “is not that it is false but that it is phony.” For Frankfurt, then, bullshit, is discourse from which incidental matters like truth and reality have been completely hollowed out and replaced by performance and simulation.

She would often say "but I happen to know that some the underlying information is true." The answer is the videos are phony, even when part of it happens to be true.

Re: Knitting bullshit

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Post by plagiarist »

Maken wrote: post #98
globular-toast wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whoever decided adding silly audio effects to an operating system is surely one of these lesser devils. Just think of how many people have been aggravated by a colleague's laptop when it "wakes up" every day, or an inappropriate notification sound during a presentation or something. On any desktop PC I interact with I do my bit by disabling all sound effects before I continue.

The real genius was whoever decided to add fake typing sounds to virtual keyboards on touch screens.

Blessedly everyone around me has disabled these, I had forgotten how enraged that makes me. Even though I don't think physical keyboards bother me at all.

Re: Knitting bullshit

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Post by revolvingthrow »

frereubu wrote: post #13

I wonder if (or, more accurately hope that) this kind of slop will eventually die out as people realise how little care is put into it. I am more and more convinced that if the devil existed he'd take care of the bigger stuff, but have an army of little devils that encourage people to do things like make unsupervised automated podcasts about knitting, relentlessly chipping away at the messy joys of living.

Boomers love slop. Even when they know it’s ai (and it can be increasingly difficult to tell even for people who don’t struggle to send an email) they love it almost as much as they love political ragebait, and they love political ragebait more than their own families. My ancient grandpa is on some facebook groups and they share bottom of the barrel ai videos and images all day. If it can be consumed with zero effort, it’s great. They couldn’t care less about whether any care of effort was involved in its creation, whether it has any value whatsoever, whether it’s made up bullshit. Not a whit.

They also have money and can vote, so there will be an endless avalanche of slop being generated every single day, enough to bury organic content ten times over.

Re: Knitting bullshit

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Post by dontwannahearit »

ipsento606 wrote: post #93

Increasingly, my reaction to AI-generated content of basically all types is simply a deep, resonant sadness. The growth of AI feels a little like losing a limb - there is an initial shock of sadness, an initial dose of loss, an initial sense of what has been taken away. But then for months and years afterwards, the daily occurrence of some other little humdrum experience, and only at the moment of the encounter does…

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Re: Knitting bullshit

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Post by qotgalaxy »

dontwannahearit wrote: post #114
ipsento606 wrote: post #93

Increasingly, my reaction to AI-generated content of basically all types is simply a deep, resonant sadness. The growth of AI feels a little like losing a limb - there is an initial shock of sadness, an initial dose of loss, an initial sense of what has been taken away. But then for months and years afterwards, the daily occurrence of some other little humdrum experience, and only at the moment of the encounter does…

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Re: Knitting bullshit

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Post by qotgalaxy »

dzink wrote: post #94

The economist in me immediately asks: Where is the financial incentive to do this? Just the same way the programmer would ask what the stack is. Some possibilities: 1) Money laundering - large content farm someone can argue makes xyz in revenue to hide an alternate source of revenue. 2) Ad fraud - leading up podcast charts or SEO results to attract clicks to sell ads. Bot farms could also be making clicks to pretend…

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Re: Knitting bullshit

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Post by CooCooCaCha »

dontwannahearit wrote: post #114
ipsento606 wrote: post #93

Increasingly, my reaction to AI-generated content of basically all types is simply a deep, resonant sadness. The growth of AI feels a little like losing a limb - there is an initial shock of sadness, an initial dose of loss, an initial sense of what has been taken away. But then for months and years afterwards, the daily occurrence of some other little humdrum experience, and only at the moment of the encounter does…

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I’m so intensely sick of this attitude. We are losing things with technology. Important things. Human things.

Looking under a microscope at one specific instance and saying “eh it’s not that bad, you’re overreacting” is disingenuous or at least putting your head in the sand.

Re: Knitting bullshit

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Post by bombcar »

CooCooCaCha wrote: post #117
dontwannahearit wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I’m so intensely sick of this attitude. We are losing things with technology. Important things. Human things. Looking under a microscope at one specific instance and saying “eh it’s not that bad, you’re overreacting” is disingenuous or at least putting your head in the sand.

Imagine a library. You go in, grab a book, and start reading.

Imagine the same library, but it's the Unseen University's Library - you go in, grab one of any book ever written, and start reading. You've gained something!

Imagine the library is now the Library of Babel, it contains every possible book that could ever exist - https://libraryofbabel.info/browse.cgi

You've definitely lost something. You'll never hit "random" and find anything of value.

Re: Knitting bullshit

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Post by jameson »

There's something innate about AI generated contents that my instincts somehow knows these aren't creations by humans.

I can't seem to state exact properties but they are hollow, out-of-norm, or as the author describes it -- bullshit

Re: Knitting bullshit

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Post by surgical_fire »

Carp wrote: post #105
dzink wrote: post #94

The economist in me immediately asks: Where is the financial incentive to do this? Just the same way the programmer would ask what the stack is. Some possibilities: 1) Money laundering - large content farm someone can argue makes xyz in revenue to hide an alternate source of revenue. 2) Ad fraud - leading up podcast charts or SEO results to attract clicks to sell ads. Bot farms could also be making clicks to pretend…

Did you read the article? Headcount went from 300 to 8, number of podcast per day went up and apparently listenership went up.

This only works if there are people willingly listening to crap.

Perhaps there are.

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