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OpenAI president forced to read his personal diary entries to jury

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Re: OpenAI president forced to read his personal diary entries to jury

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Who keeps a personal diary in 2026?

As others have said journals are pretty neat and actually live on a spectrum where the chronological aspect is the common defining feature. By that I mean you can keep something like a gratitude journal where you write daily a set number of things you are grateful that day (after a bad flu I was grateful to be able to swallow without pain for example) or at the other end you have work journals to keep track of what you've done on that day if you ascribe to the CYA professional principle. For a while I kept a physical bullet journal but at some point I went digital instead.

Generally speaking even the "Dear diary," style of journal is helpful, if not to gather your thoughts and reflect then at least to practice writing.

Re: OpenAI president forced to read his personal diary entries to jury

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post #18

> OpenAI submitted the journals as evidence in October that was initially sealed and then unsealed in January. How does that work? How can a company submit a personal journal as evidence? That feels extremely intrusive

If you learn anything from this, it's that anything you write can ultimately show up in court. You have no right to privacy and your written words, no matter where they are written, are subject to be taken as evidence. Yes it feels intrusive, but it's literally the first thing a lawyer would ask for.

Launder your personal journal through an LLM, folks. That way the sentiments can't be provably your own.

Re: OpenAI president forced to read his personal diary entries to jury

#44
I’m too paranoid to write a diary, even a handwritten one, and I’m literally a nobody.

It’s beyond me how these super important (and controversial) people keep diaries where they lay out their evil plots like a villain from Scooby Doo. And save it on a work computer.

Re: OpenAI president forced to read his personal diary entries to jury

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post #18

> OpenAI submitted the journals as evidence in October that was initially sealed and then unsealed in January. How does that work? How can a company submit a personal journal as evidence? That feels extremely intrusive

Discovery is a lot more intrusive than people expect.

Re: OpenAI president forced to read his personal diary entries to jury

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, the Framers of the constitution felt the same as you and the 5th amendment used to apply to your belongings as well so a diary you wrote couldn't be used against you.

Could you share links about this? When it turned into a different interpretation?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mere_evidence_rule

(4th and 5th overlap here but I generally just cite the 5th as the reason why the 4th applies is because of the 5th)

Re: OpenAI president forced to read his personal diary entries to jury

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> anymore? This is how discovery has always worked. > submitted Doesn't necessarily mean they volunteered it. Either submission or the unsealing could have been in response to a subpoena or court ruling. Maybe the solution is to write at the top of your journal that you are cc'ing your lawyer on it. (Not legal advice!)

> > anymore? > This is how discovery has always worked. So if I say a worry to my therapist, and years later I get sued in a civil lawsuit, my opponents can just ask the therapist for their meeting notes and those get submitted and then published on the internet? No, I assume? So then where's the line? I'm no lawyer (in fact I'm a total noob in this area) but seems very weird to me that private notes can just be subp…

NAL but generally familiar with law.

Medical (and especially therapy) notes, attorney/client communications, and a few other have privilege [1] and you would not /required/ to submit this. If the opposing side requested something that turned them up, and they were responsive, you'd include a response and include a reference in a "privilege log" [0]

What is privileged is subtle and often overstated. You can't just put "attorney/client privilege" and CC a lawyer — you need to be asking a genuine legal question. Google almost got in trouble for something like this [2].

Private notes, including diaries, are not privileged. I'd like to see some serious proposals for "diary privilege" but no state has such a rule.

[0] https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/creating-privilege-logs-a-... [1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/privileged_communication [2] https://www.proskauer.com/blog/the-sound-of-silent-attorneys... — although they won later appeals. My point here is that its complicated.

Re: OpenAI president forced to read his personal diary entries to jury

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post #9

I honestly don't know how I feel about this. I keep a journal where I can get thoughts out of my head so I can move on. Like the article, its nothing I'd really be ashamed of, but I see it as a kind of personal therapy where I can dump my thoughts. I write with the assumption they are my private thoughts and even I don't have any plans on going back and rereading. I know I'm not a CEO, but even I wouldn't want my pri…

Yeah, the Framers of the constitution felt the same as you and the 5th amendment used to apply to your belongings as well so a diary you wrote couldn't be used against you.

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Re: OpenAI president forced to read his personal diary entries to jury

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I honestly don't know how I feel about this. I keep a journal where I can get thoughts out of my head so I can move on. Like the article, its nothing I'd really be ashamed of, but I see it as a kind of personal therapy where I can dump my thoughts. I write with the assumption they are my private thoughts and even I don't have any plans on going back and rereading. I know I'm not a CEO, but even I wouldn't want my pri…

You have options: - Don't write it down. - Delete it before you're subpoenaed. - Mail it to your attorney.

- Write it in a contrived and confusing way
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