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OpenAI president forced to read his personal diary entries to jury
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Re: OpenAI president forced to read his personal diary entries to jury
#22Seriously is nothing sacred anymore? Like I think the entirety of OpenAI leadership are scumbags but how is it OK to force someone, anyone, to publish their most private thoughts? EDIT: I sorry read over this part: > OpenAI submitted the journals as evidence in October that was initially sealed and then unsealed in January So they chose to submit it as evidence themselves. I stand corrected, insane move though, why w…
> anymore?
This is how discovery has always worked.
> submitted
Doesn't necessarily mean they volunteered it. Either submission or the unsealing could have been in response to a subpoena or court ruling.
Maybe the solution is to write at the top of your journal that you are cc'ing your lawyer on it. (Not legal advice!)
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#23Aside from the disheartening forced-reading of this deeply-personal journal, I've gleaned from it that Musk wanted to bring OpenAI into Tesla, and OpenAI leaders did not. My thought is "OF COURSE" Musk would want to bring it in under his corporate control. I'm glad it didn't.
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#24Who keeps a personal diary in 2026?
I do! It's cathartic and peaceful. :)
What's the big deal if people do? Why judge? Why even... care? :)
Re: OpenAI president forced to read his personal diary entries to jury
#25Seriously is nothing sacred anymore? Like I think the entirety of OpenAI leadership are scumbags but how is it OK to force someone, anyone, to publish their most private thoughts? EDIT: I sorry read over this part: > OpenAI submitted the journals as evidence in October that was initially sealed and then unsealed in January So they chose to submit it as evidence themselves. I stand corrected, insane move though, why w…
> anymore? This is how discovery has always worked. > submitted Doesn't necessarily mean they volunteered it. Either submission or the unsealing could have been in response to a subpoena or court ruling. Maybe the solution is to write at the top of your journal that you are cc'ing your lawyer on it. (Not legal advice!)
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#26From the article, emphasis mine: > Additionally, Brockman’s journal showed him grappling with whether voting against Musk’s plan or for Musk’s ejection from the board would be morally wrong. > “Can’t see us turning this into a for-profit without a very nasty fight,” Brockman wrote in another entry. “ It’d be wrong to steal the non-profit from him. That’d be pretty morally bankrupt. ” This is pretty damning for OpenAI…
Another part also says: "After Musk announced he was resigning from OpenAI in February 2018, Musk gave a departing speech at an all-hands meeting, Brockman testified. In front of about 40 OpenAI employees, Musk said that he was leaving because the only viable path that he saw forward was for OpenAI to merge with Tesla. However, the other leaders did not think so, Musk said, choosing a different path that Musk would n…
I mean, the claim here is not that Musk is not an asshole. This is a court case where two assholes fight about who defrauded that other one more successfully. Whoever wins and whoever looses, we know both involved men have pretty non-existent morality.
And in the grand scheme of things, OpenAI being charity was always bullshit too.
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#27> OpenAI submitted the journals as evidence in October that was initially sealed and then unsealed in January. How does that work? How can a company submit a personal journal as evidence? That feels extremely intrusive
He kept them on his work laptop, and they were swept up in discovery. Don't ignore your security team when they talk about data protection and not doing personal business on work devices.
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#28Seriously is nothing sacred anymore? Like I think the entirety of OpenAI leadership are scumbags but how is it OK to force someone, anyone, to publish their most private thoughts? EDIT: I sorry read over this part: > OpenAI submitted the journals as evidence in October that was initially sealed and then unsealed in January So they chose to submit it as evidence themselves. I stand corrected, insane move though, why w…
> anymore? This is how discovery has always worked. > submitted Doesn't necessarily mean they volunteered it. Either submission or the unsealing could have been in response to a subpoena or court ruling. Maybe the solution is to write at the top of your journal that you are cc'ing your lawyer on it. (Not legal advice!)
> > anymore?
> This is how discovery has always worked.
So if I say a worry to my therapist, and years later I get sued in a civil lawsuit, my opponents can just ask the therapist for their meeting notes and those get submitted and then published on the internet? No, I assume? So then where's the line? I'm no lawyer (in fact I'm a total noob in this area) but seems very weird to me that private notes can just be subpoena'd like that.
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#29> OpenAI submitted the journals as evidence in October that was initially sealed and then unsealed in January. How does that work? How can a company submit a personal journal as evidence? That feels extremely intrusive
If you learn anything from this, it's that anything you write can ultimately show up in court. You have no right to privacy and your written words, no matter where they are written, are subject to be taken as evidence.
Yes it feels intrusive, but it's literally the first thing a lawyer would ask for.
Re: OpenAI president forced to read his personal diary entries to jury
#30Would it have helped him if he had encrypted it, or would he have had to reveal it anyway?