Earlier quoted context omitted.
65 hours to restore a full backup
Yes, but with all that data, how much heavier does it get?
2.231705*10^-13 gram
245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping
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#72The press release is missing the key specification — how many Libraries of Congress fit on this thing?
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#73I checked the specs here: https://www.micron.com/content/dam/micron/global/public/prod... The interface looks equiv to 4x PCIe 5.0. > Sequential read (MB/s): 13,700 > Sequential write (MB/s): 2,700 That is pretty awful write performance. Does anyone know more about this? I assume all of these hyperdense SSDs suffer from the same drawback. Also, I heard that the E3.L interface can support up to 16x lanes, but there ar…
Extremely dense QLC chips. Still it's 2700-3000MByte, ie ~3GByte/second.
What should worry way more is DWPD which is abysmal... on the first glance. But if you punch it in the calc it still would take ages to wear it out.
SSD #1 SSD #2 SSD #3
Capacity (GB) 245000 245000 245000
Warranty (yr.) 3 3 3
DWPD 0.3 1 0.075
TBW (TB) 80482 268275 20121
TBW (PB) 80.483 268.275 20.121
PBW 80.483 268.275 20.121
GB/day 73500 245000 18375
Time period Average host-side write data rate (MB/s) needed for reaching DWPD value within specified time period
8 hr. 2552.08 8506.94 638.02
12 hr. 1701.39 5671.30 425.35
24 hr. 850.69 2835.65 212.67
Re: 245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping
#74Meanwhile I'm still dreaming about any consumer and affordable 32TB or even 16TB portable SSD. Innovation and market for consumers are going backwards. Funny thing is that one of the best you can get is the Crucial (Micron) 8TB one but even that one gets more expensive. I have the feeling it will be gone completely soon.
Enterprise NVMe on the high end is now starting to ship batches at $1000/TB with existing stock around $500/TB. No consumer is going to pay that.
But if you're buying a $500k GPU server putting 100TB of nvme in there for $50-100k is justifiable.
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#75“For AI workloads: The 245TB Micron 6600 ION provided up to 84 times better energy efficiency” How big of a deal is this part in relation to the initial upfront costs? I’m not privy to the cost of power for SSD
With a modern CPUs hitting 400W it's already a problem to fill a rack top down with servers like you could do before: too many heat to dissipate and transfer, too much power to provide in the first place.
Just imagine something like 2S 9565 in at least 2U machines: with 10 server x 2U x 2 CPU you would have 8kW in the processors alone and you didn't even fill half of the 42U rack.
https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/server/epyc/9005-...
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#76God damn. I know somebody that became a multi-millionaire from web hosting in the 2000s and his entire data center back then could have been replaced with just one of these SSDs.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is it mean? Why would you want to use a technology that is unsuitable for cold storage for cold storage? You won't even get the power / IOPS benefit if all it does is an infrequent replication of data and is then switched off.
What kind of usage do you envision for 245TB drive with read speed of 3GB/sec?
I believe it has read speeds of 13GB/s, not 3 (unless you are referring to an equivalent array of 10 HDD). It will almost certainly be used to store training datasets and model weights. Which I assume are good use cases for fast sequential reads.
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#78Re: 245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping
#79Meanwhile I'm still dreaming about any consumer and affordable 32TB or even 16TB portable SSD. Innovation and market for consumers are going backwards. Funny thing is that one of the best you can get is the Crucial (Micron) 8TB one but even that one gets more expensive. I have the feeling it will be gone completely soon.
Enterprise NVMe on the high end is now starting to ship batches at $1000/TB with existing stock around $500/TB. No consumer is going to pay that. But if you're buying a $500k GPU server putting 100TB of nvme in there for $50-100k is justifiable.
There was once a 2.5" SSD Mushkin Source 16TB SATA drive. At its cheapest it was ~1700 USD (or 1500 EUR). That was mid 2023 (like 3 years ago!).
Nowadays it feels like that this time and price region is like decades away in the future. I was hoping I can store more data in future on modern tech like SSDs and not less.
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#80I checked the specs here: https://www.micron.com/content/dam/micron/global/public/prod... The interface looks equiv to 4x PCIe 5.0. > Sequential read (MB/s): 13,700 > Sequential write (MB/s): 2,700 That is pretty awful write performance. Does anyone know more about this? I assume all of these hyperdense SSDs suffer from the same drawback. Also, I heard that the E3.L interface can support up to 16x lanes, but there ar…
A more convenient (and dare I say, faster) tape drive replacement for backups? They do make a good point, it would take 10*24TB drives working in the worst raid configuration to even come close to these speeds.