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StarFighter 16-Inch

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Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by InsideOutSanta »

simonjgreen wrote: post #97

What an unfortunate time for these niche hardware companies to be launching new hardware. Framework, StarLabs, System76, (I wonder if Tuxedo will release something). The RAM prices must be killing them. Even if they increase prices to accommodate, I know quite a lot of folks who are simply punting any purchasing until things calm down.

I just ordered my Framework without any memory or storage, hoping that by the time it arrives, I'll be able to pick up some RAM and an SSD for a more reasonable price. If not, I'll just grab something from a drawer and use it underspecced until prices normalize.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by culebron21 »

maratc wrote: post #139
tarjei_huse wrote: post #84

A framework competitor! Most of all I love the keyboard. Full size arrow keys as well as home, end and page up/down nearby. I wish framework laptops could come with multiple possible keyboard layouts like the one on the picture.

On the other hand, full size arrow keys make this a non-starter for me. I need to position my fingers over the arrow keys without looking at them, and half-size allows me to do that by touch feeling.

I feel the opposite -- with half-size up/down keys, it's too easy to mis-press them. I guess it's a matter of habit.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by rixed »

maratc wrote: post #139
tarjei_huse wrote: post #84

A framework competitor! Most of all I love the keyboard. Full size arrow keys as well as home, end and page up/down nearby. I wish framework laptops could come with multiple possible keyboard layouts like the one on the picture.

On the other hand, full size arrow keys make this a non-starter for me. I need to position my fingers over the arrow keys without looking at them, and half-size allows me to do that by touch feeling.

For that exact same reason I've been avoiding half-sized up/down keys and full arrow keys, as well as mate screen and weight, have been my first filters when browsing for laptops. How annoying must it be to design those machines with such a variety of tastes :)

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by retired »

teekert wrote: post #126
retired wrote: post #119

I’m unable to order this laptop without a charging brick which is now illegal in the EU. Same goes for the standard one year warranty. Should be two at minimum. I had my country configured to Belgium while testing this.

They are free to charge you extra for taking the charger out of the box. So I'd grant them a bit of civil disobedience on this one and just take that nice GaN charger. I can see the EU's take on this, and maybe overall this will even be good. I have some nice Anker chargers and can charge everything we have at home with them (added some USB-C to ligthning/micro-USB thingies here and there), but I'd be a bit annoyed i…

The easiest option to implement would be to have separate SKUs for the charger and the laptop. And not three SKUs: laptop with charger, laptop without charger, separate charger.

If you ship to multiple countries you can reduce the SKUs even more as the laptop SKU isn’t country specific anymore.

Offering a version without the charger for the same price would not reduce ewaste which is the point.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by rawling »

> 5 years of updates

Is this an improvement on how long whatever it's talking about usually gets updates for, or is putting a limit on it at all a bad sign? I've only seen this with regards to mobile phones before.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by throwuxiytayq »

teekert wrote: post #126
retired wrote: post #119

I’m unable to order this laptop without a charging brick which is now illegal in the EU. Same goes for the standard one year warranty. Should be two at minimum. I had my country configured to Belgium while testing this.

They are free to charge you extra for taking the charger out of the box. So I'd grant them a bit of civil disobedience on this one and just take that nice GaN charger. I can see the EU's take on this, and maybe overall this will even be good. I have some nice Anker chargers and can charge everything we have at home with them (added some USB-C to ligthning/micro-USB thingies here and there), but I'd be a bit annoyed i…

> The laptop is being shipped anyway, so I assume the charger in there may be a "sweet deal" if you need one

You do realize you’re paying for the charger, right? And you don’t like the option of not having to purchase the charger?

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by walthamstow »

retired wrote: post #119

I’m unable to order this laptop without a charging brick which is now illegal in the EU. Same goes for the standard one year warranty. Should be two at minimum. I had my country configured to Belgium while testing this.

Wait til you hear about Hacker News' level of compliance with the GDPR

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by xvfLJfx9 »

negura wrote: post #122
camgunz wrote: post #114

Coreboot is amazing, more machines should have open firmware--especially those intended to run FOSS OSs.

100% agreed. it upsets me when i see companies like framework advertising themselves front and centre as Linux-first, yet won't sponsor a coreboot port. starlabs, system76 and novacustom actually walk the walk

Framework plans to eventually support coreboot, as far as I am aware. (Or open source the current one they purchased). It just wasn't the main priority. They focused on making a repairable laptops ecosystem first. Switching to different firmware later isn't ruled out.
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