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Re: 245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping

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They haven't released details but I was able to find a Solidigm D5-P5336 122.88TB drive for around 40,000 USD, as a guideline. So ... more than that.

Okay, so that 122TB drive costs about $330/TB. I haven't bought a hard drive or an SSD in at least a decade (I get stuff for free, basically) but…that seems a bit high, right? Seems like well-rated consumer-level SSDs cost around $250 for 1TB right now. What accounts for the premium price/TB of these extremely high capacity enterprise-targeted drives?

I fondly remember when i could buy a well-rated consumer-level SSD for a lot less per TB...

Re: 245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping

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The u.2 form factor is slightly larger than a 2.5" drive. I can imagine the entire space in it taken by Flash chips. I can't imagine what cooling scheme do they employ for the chips in the middle.

Apparently TDP is 30 watts¹, according to the product brief. I would imagine it's a single PCB with flash chips on both sides then thermally bonded to the aluminum chassis. That should keep all chips at approximately the same temperature. On its own it could be easily air cooled, but with 24 in a 2U chassis you'll be having some decently hefty forced air over the drives. 1. For comparison, an HDD usually comes in aro…

Given the cost of 24 of them, you can probably buy solid silver heatsinks watercooled with tears of sysadmins.

Re: 245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping

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The u.2 form factor is slightly larger than a 2.5" drive. I can imagine the entire space in it taken by Flash chips. I can't imagine what cooling scheme do they employ for the chips in the middle.

The transfer rates limit how much each chip can be active at any given time, so a heat-aware writing allocator can pick the least active blocks for the next writes and distribute the heat accordingly. Even if it’s not heat-aware, the tendency will be that the writes will be distributed over as many chips as there are, and so will be the heat generated.

Now, I would LOVE to see this much SLC flash on a direct to bus attachment setting.

Re: 245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently TDP is 30 watts¹, according to the product brief. I would imagine it's a single PCB with flash chips on both sides then thermally bonded to the aluminum chassis. That should keep all chips at approximately the same temperature. On its own it could be easily air cooled, but with 24 in a 2U chassis you'll be having some decently hefty forced air over the drives. 1. For comparison, an HDD usually comes in aro…

Given the cost of 24 of them, you can probably buy solid silver heatsinks watercooled with tears of sysadmins.

I was going to say blood of virgins, but tears are probably better heat conductors.

Re: 245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping

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Can someone who knows explain what is the benefit of having all that data in one ssd instead of splitting it up into hundreds of individual drives? Does the single ssd benefit is more performance or does it really tuen out to be cheaper than hundreds of individual drives?

They’ll still have hundreds of individual drives. Of these drives.

And thanks to the density, they won’t need as many racks as they used to.

Re: 245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They haven't released details but I was able to find a Solidigm D5-P5336 122.88TB drive for around 40,000 USD, as a guideline. So ... more than that.

I was quoted $18K for a 3.7 TB Dell NVMe disk the other day. I'm gonna guess these drives are literally a quarter million each

You're getting ripped off. NVMe SSDs are expensive, but not THAT expensive. A 4Tb drive should be around $1k even with some "enterprise" markup.

Re: 245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping

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QLC NAND The datasheet shows 3GB/s sequential write, which for 245.76TB means writing the whole drive takes around 22h45m. Odd that the endurance is specified as "1.0 SDWPD", which is almost meaningless since the drive takes roughly that long to write at full speed. At scale, 1.9 times more energy is required for an HDD deployment ...but those HDDs are going to hold data for far more than twice as long. It's especial…

You can trivially modulate flash endurance by tweaking the reported space - the less space you report, the more spares you have.
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