StarFighter 16-Inch • Hacker News Board

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by theMMaI » Wed, May 06, 2026, 5:43 AM UTC

sam_lowry_ wrote: post #83

Does it suspend to RAM with echo mem > /sys/power/state and stays there for a couple of weeks on battery? If not, I will keep my Intel Thinkpad T14 G2, The Last of the Mohicans that can.

Most devices still support S3 sleep, it's just disabled by default as s2idle (modern standby) has become the default. You can almost always re-enable S3 sleep if you really want to, but on modern devices it typically only takes a few seconds to resume from S4 (suspend-to-disk) which technically is safer and more reliable. Also you can always use suspend-then-hibernate if you really want fast resume during the day, but long battery life when it's more than an hour or so.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by seabrookmx » Wed, May 06, 2026, 5:45 AM UTC

mvkel wrote: post #82

fabiensanglard wrote: post #81

Opensource firmware? Does it mean this machine has the potential of having amazing battery life since it can be fully programmed? I am talking as close to MacBook Pro level (not accounting for arm vs intel/amd difference).

The Dell XPS and Framework laptops already far exceed MacBook Pro battery life.

The Framework 13 absolutely does not touch the MacBook Pro battery life in any of its current configurations, though the upcoming 13 pro promises to.

I have a Ryzen 5 AI 340 powered machine and average about 6 hours. I might be able to stretch that to 7 if I dimmed the screen a bunch and only did light web browsing.

This is closer battery life to MacBook Neo, not an Air or Pro under the same workload.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by simonjgreen » Wed, May 06, 2026, 5:51 AM UTC

sam_lowry_ wrote: post #85

mvkel wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Dell XPS and Framework laptops already far exceed MacBook Pro battery life.

O'rly? Also when suspended to RAM? Framework AMD versions specifically?

The Intel 13th gen will draw ~1% per hour while suspended to RAM.

My findings on it: https://sjg.io/writing/suspend-battery-drain-framework-13-ub...

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by seabrookmx » Wed, May 06, 2026, 5:52 AM UTC

paulpauper wrote: post #65

bigyabai wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A couple weeks ago, Framework livestreamed a rundown of their 13" laptop lasting over 20 hours on a charge. I can believe the 16" gets there too.

With wifi and usage? I have never gotten more than 3 hours with wifi and regular usage. Maybe this one is different.

I reliably get 6 hours out of my Framework 13 with the Ryzen 5 340. And that's with multiple IDE's, 20 browser tabs, full screen brightness. I'm running the latest Fedora without any power saving tweaks.. just stock.

It's not MacBook good but it's much better than 3hrs :)

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by seabrookmx » Wed, May 06, 2026, 5:55 AM UTC

cr125rider wrote: post #37

ilaksh wrote: post #35

Says nothing about AI capability or even graphics. I am skeptical about the value.

This is satire, right?

Off topic but I like your username! Ironically I have matching 2003 CR85 and CR250's but not the 125 :P

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by DiabloD3 » Wed, May 06, 2026, 5:55 AM UTC

miek wrote: post #7

Excellence. I like everything, and the open warranty is nice: "Our 1-year limited warranty allows you to take your computer apart, replace parts, install an upgrade, and use any operating system and even your firmware, all without voiding the warranty." I'd love to see more than 5 years of updates, but there is so much to love here, I can look past that!

They don't sell you your OS, that's the big surface area that companies like Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc have to swallow.

They also don't make these computers and are at the whim of their ODM, so unless you opt for Coreboot/Libreboot, there wouldn't be a possibility for that.

https://doc.coreboot.org/mainboard/starlabs/starfighter_mtl.... The previous version is already upstreamed, apparently.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by simonjgreen » Wed, May 06, 2026, 6:01 AM UTC

What an unfortunate time for these niche hardware companies to be launching new hardware. Framework, StarLabs, System76, (I wonder if Tuxedo will release something). The RAM prices must be killing them. Even if they increase prices to accommodate, I know quite a lot of folks who are simply punting any purchasing until things calm down.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by sschueller » Wed, May 06, 2026, 6:06 AM UTC

Nice but Switzerland and the EU by law require a minimum of a 2 year warranty. You can't sell a device with less.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by sspiff » Wed, May 06, 2026, 6:08 AM UTC

sschueller wrote: post #98

Nice but Switzerland and the EU by law require a minimum of a 2 year warranty. You can't sell a device with less.

To consumers. You can sell to businesses.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by stonogo » Wed, May 06, 2026, 6:08 AM UTC

dwighttherobot wrote: post #70

ekianjo wrote: post #46

No cachyOS or Arch install options. Proposing Manjaro in 2026 is major clueless

I have no experience with cachyOS, so can't comment there, but I don't see the point in offering pre-installed Arch. I'd say most Arch users are fairly picky and opinionated about their setup, and would choose to reinstall anyway.

Can't imagine how tough it must be to be someone who, when offered a choice of nine different operating system, chooses to whine about it