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Re: Our AI started a cafe in Stockholm

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Post by dist-epoch »

simonw wrote: post #22
dist-epoch wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a weird take. Suppliers were paid to supply stuff. You never contacted a supplier to change an order?

You think it's OK to waste police time with slop diagrams? As for suppliers: I don't think it's OK to waste their time with a no-human-in-the-loop AI order which the AI later tells them to "emergency" change or cancel.

Small business owners do not have professionals dealing with bureaucracy. I'm pretty sure a lot of plans submitted to the police require a few turns because they didn't follow the submitting rules.

And most suppliers soon will have have no human in the loop either. Suppliers deal with unreasonable people all the time, I bet they don't even flinch when the see EMERGENCY in the subject.

This is the "Waymo ran over a cat" thing - humans do these things 100 times more.

Re: Our AI started a cafe in Stockholm

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Post by DavidVoid »

A couple of quotes from one of the employed baristas (translated from a Swedish local news article) [1].

"I'm worried every time there's a delivery, I never know what she's ordered."

"I like it. At the interview, Mona didn't care that I have dialect or I don't have a doctorate. For her, the most important thing was that I was nice and could make coffee."

If he has learned something from the experiment, it is that it is the middle managers and all CEOs who are at risk of being replaced by AI – not the baristas.

"Without me here, it would have been difficult for Mona."

[1] https://www.mitti.se/nyheter/ai-driver-eget-kafe-i-vasastan-...

Re: Our AI started a cafe in Stockholm

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Post by JohnMakin »

DavidVoid wrote: post #27
JohnMakin wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't worry, it's fiction.

I don't think so. The cafe is a real place and it's owned by the company mentioned in the article. It was in the local news the other week [1]. If you're going to do an experiment like this, then Stockholm is a good place to do it, since the bureaucracy here is very digitalized. [1]: https://www.mitti.se/nyheter/ai-driver-eget-kafe-i-vasastan-...

Yes, it is literally a place, I wasn't saying it wasn't. The fiction is that this is pure PR fluff of what is actually going on, a human/dev team is prodding this thing in ways to "manage" the employees. This was pointed out in their last PR stunt:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47794391

So yes, it is a type of fiction. They also have every incentive to hype this up, given what their company does. I really wish people had more skepticism and critical thought with these things, it isn't actually good at all for the AI space and its future success.

Re: Our AI started a cafe in Stockholm

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Post by JohnMakin »

sureMan6 wrote: post #26
JohnMakin wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't worry, it's fiction.

I've lived in Sweden, it's real

Yes, it is literally a place, I wasn't saying it wasn't. The fiction is that this is pure PR fluff of what is actually going on, a human/dev team is prodding this thing in ways to "manage" the employees. This was pointed out in their last PR stunt:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47794391

So yes, it is a type of fiction. They also have every incentive to hype this up, given what their company does. I really wish people had more skepticism and critical thought with these things, it isn't actually good at all for the AI space and its future success.

Re: Our AI started a cafe in Stockholm

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Post by denysvitali »

> She also tried to solve the problem of fresh tomatoes being spoiled too fast by ordering 22.5 kg of canned tomatoes for the fresh sandwiches.

> The baristas eventually started a “Hall of Shame”, a shelf visible to customers with all the weird things Mona ordered, including 6,000 napkins, 3,000 nitrile gloves, 9L coconut milk, and industrial-sized trash bags.

Reminds me of Son of Anton: https://youtu.be/m0b_D2JgZgY

Re: Our AI started a cafe in Stockholm

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Post by Aurornis »

dist-epoch wrote: post #18
simonw wrote: post #9

> She also successfully applied for an outdoor seating permit through the Police e-service, which didn’t require BankID. Her first submission included a sketch she had generated herself, despite having never seen the street outside the café. Unsurprisingly, the Police sent it back for revision. [...] > When she makes a mistake, she often sends multiple emails to suppliers with the subject “EMERGENCY” to cancel or cha…

This is a weird take. Suppliers were paid to supply stuff. You never contacted a supplier to change an order?

What a weird take. The government permitting staff and police are not private industry suppliers who can drop bad clients or bill them for wasted time.

You can spam a private vendor all you want with EMERGENCY change orders, but expect your bill to grow for the privilege. I know some contractors who would love this client because EMERGENCY change orders are expensive under their rate schedule.

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