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iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by bombcar »

jermaustin1 wrote: post #223
bombcar wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only information sent to the card processor is the swipe (number expiration date) and sometimes the zip code and verification code on the back (if entered by hand).

When my wife worked retail (20+ years ago), she had to verify the name on the card with the name on the machine with the name on their ID. They caught a decent number where the machine had a different name pop up than the card showed. And WAY more when comparing both to their ID. They called her "The Bulldog" because of how vigilant she was about it. That store lead the region in CC Fraud. But soon they were the bott…

At least in my experience the "name on the machine" back then was just read from the magstripe - I had access to a track 3 writer and had some fun copying my credit card info onto my driver license and swiping that.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by chimeracoder »

bombcar wrote: post #203
jermaustin1 wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here. I'm in the US. I actually thought Credit/Debit cards had to have YOUR "full" name on them. My wife and I share MANY accounts, and none of our cards have a "shared" name on it.

The only information sent to the card processor is the swipe (number expiration date) and sometimes the zip code and verification code on the back (if entered by hand).

> The only information sent to the card processor is the swipe (number expiration date) and sometimes the zip code and verification code on the back (if entered by hand).

For credit cards? No, that's not necessarily true.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by rurp »

Terretta wrote: post #82
kilian wrote: post #71

The wallet app UI is the peak of Apple's 'single 20y/o in sf' design. Anyone that has multiple card from the same bank (because, say, you have a personal account and a shared account with your partner) has to do the "pick between the two identical looking top 20px of cards" dance every time they use Wallet to pay for something. It is mind-boggling that the current UI persists.

The same is true in a physical card wallet. An 80 year old with early onset challenges can work this wallet, pick a card, and then hold the phone to the reader at a store. It's all co-opting "familiar" actions for them, not tech-like, which means they can do it. The biggest UX issue Apple has for that persona isn't the wallet, it's the lack of physical home button. Everyone in their 70s and up seems to be given pause…

Apple and Tesla are two companies that somehow have a widespread reputation for great UX that I think are absolutely atrocious in that area. It's not just 70 yearolds, an iphone is unusuable for someone of any age if they've never used one before and don't have someone to tell them how to do core actions like back or home.

Tesla loves to hide critical functionality in non-standard places, often buried in touch screen menus. They can move items at any time. That's insane to me, but I guess I'm the outlier.

Android's move to gestures is lame copycat behavior. I've actually seen people online defending it on the grounds that using gestures feels cooler. Maybe that explains it, many people will take UI gimmicks over solid usability.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by dstroot »

Terretta wrote: post #82
kilian wrote: post #71

The wallet app UI is the peak of Apple's 'single 20y/o in sf' design. Anyone that has multiple card from the same bank (because, say, you have a personal account and a shared account with your partner) has to do the "pick between the two identical looking top 20px of cards" dance every time they use Wallet to pay for something. It is mind-boggling that the current UI persists.

The same is true in a physical card wallet. An 80 year old with early onset challenges can work this wallet, pick a card, and then hold the phone to the reader at a store. It's all co-opting "familiar" actions for them, not tech-like, which means they can do it. The biggest UX issue Apple has for that persona isn't the wallet, it's the lack of physical home button. Everyone in their 70s and up seems to be given pause…

> “The biggest UX issue Apple has for that persona isn't the wallet, it's the lack of physical home button”

So true! Also my 84 year old mother can never figure the difference between a web site and an app. If I could add a home button and solve the second issue her life would be much better.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by FireBeyond »

rurp wrote: post #233
Terretta wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same is true in a physical card wallet. An 80 year old with early onset challenges can work this wallet, pick a card, and then hold the phone to the reader at a store. It's all co-opting "familiar" actions for them, not tech-like, which means they can do it. The biggest UX issue Apple has for that persona isn't the wallet, it's the lack of physical home button. Everyone in their 70s and up seems to be given pause…

Apple and Tesla are two companies that somehow have a widespread reputation for great UX that I think are absolutely atrocious in that area. It's not just 70 yearolds, an iphone is unusuable for someone of any age if they've never used one before and don't have someone to tell them how to do core actions like back or home. Tesla loves to hide critical functionality in non-standard places, often buried in touch screen…

Right, especially Tesla. The one thing I will say about Tesla's UI (not UX) is that for a while (and admittedly to this day, still, largely) it looked far better and pleasing than most auto UIs. But 1) others are catching up on that front, and 2) as you say, the UX is often garbage.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by odysseus »

jonas21 wrote: post #158
Terretta wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same is true in a physical card wallet. An 80 year old with early onset challenges can work this wallet, pick a card, and then hold the phone to the reader at a store. It's all co-opting "familiar" actions for them, not tech-like, which means they can do it. The biggest UX issue Apple has for that persona isn't the wallet, it's the lack of physical home button. Everyone in their 70s and up seems to be given pause…

> the lack of physical home button You can use the Accessibility settings to add a virtual home button that's always displayed in the same place on-screen. That seems to work pretty well for the older folks I know.

It wasn’t obvious where to add a virtual home button, so I’m adding instructions here:

Settings > Accessibility > Touch > Assistive Touch

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by rkagerer »

brandon272 wrote: post #156
Terretta wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same is true in a physical card wallet. An 80 year old with early onset challenges can work this wallet, pick a card, and then hold the phone to the reader at a store. It's all co-opting "familiar" actions for them, not tech-like, which means they can do it. The biggest UX issue Apple has for that persona isn't the wallet, it's the lack of physical home button. Everyone in their 70s and up seems to be given pause…

> The biggest UX issue Apple has for that persona isn't the wallet, it's the lack of physical home button. I'm in my 40s and don't have much trouble with reaching Home by swiping up from the bottom. But anecdotally, when I observe a person who is 65+ operate their iPhones, 9 times out of 10 they experience problems swiping up from bottom to reach Home. The swipe up does nothing, presumably because they aren't startin…

One stupid button would solve all that. I'm of similar age as you and really miss buttons. In my car, on my devices, on appliances, etc. There are applications where capacitive touchscreen buttons make sense but by and large all they've done over the last 15 years or so is enshittify everything.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by carabiner »

basch wrote: post #36
randusername wrote: post #10

What a relief. My awful workaround was photos of all my membership barcodes labeled with a sharpie so that I can search "Gym" or "Library" or whatever to pull them up from OCR indexing.

Pass2U Wallet works great, but like many apps, it really should just be a feature to begin with. You can also make passes for other people and send them / share them. Looks like someone else recommended a competitor Pass4 Wallet as well, may need to go compare.

These apps never worked for me at my gym. The app successfully (it seemed) scanned my barcode on my gym card, but the gym's scanner never was able to pick it up from my phone's screen at max brightness, adjusting zoom etc.
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