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iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by Qasaur »

dec0dedab0de wrote: post #131
DrewADesign wrote: post #85

While the author does mention the barriers to adoption, the premise— Apple was waiting for people to do something, but people weren’t doing it— subtly casts Apple as a passive entity in this scenario. The solution seems to be presented as Apple stepping in to make up for Developers’ inaction. If it’s been 14 years and there’s been very little adoption, this is clearly a UX problem. How many small venues or libraries…

What there really should be is a wallet equivalent of an ics file. It doesn't need to support everything, static images would be enough for most use cases. Advanced features could then require the current model. But that would require collaboration, and standards, which seem to have gone away as smart phones came in.

W3C Verifiable Credentials [1] does almost exactly what you suggested and was recently approved as a top-level W3C standard. Adoption has been sluggish outside of digital identity (with Android [2] and the EU digital identity wallet being notable exceptions), but I think it is because the family of standards is relatively new.

[1] https://www.w3.org/TR/vc-overview/

[2] https://developer.android.com/identity/digital-credentials

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by gortok »

mh- wrote: post #136
gortok wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it’s not true of a physical wallet. I have 8 locations in my bi-fold wallet I can place any given card, orientation-wise. Lower left, lower right, upper left, upper right, inside left, inside right, dollar bills left, dollar bills right.

Isn't the same true of the wallet on iPhone? I drag and drop reorder my cards as necessary. There's a fixed number of positions that fit above the "fold" (in the scrolling sense).

No. I have only a vertical ordering available in Apple wallet. A card can be above another card or below another card. I have 3d physicality in a wallet that Apple wallet does not replicate.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by mh- »

gortok wrote: post #162
mh- wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the same true of the wallet on iPhone? I drag and drop reorder my cards as necessary. There's a fixed number of positions that fit above the "fold" (in the scrolling sense).

No. I have only a vertical ordering available in Apple wallet. A card can be above another card or below another card. I have 3d physicality in a wallet that Apple wallet does not replicate.

Ah, so two+ columns vs one.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by alistairSH »

lode wrote: post #138
Terretta wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same is true in a physical card wallet. An 80 year old with early onset challenges can work this wallet, pick a card, and then hold the phone to the reader at a store. It's all co-opting "familiar" actions for them, not tech-like, which means they can do it. The biggest UX issue Apple has for that persona isn't the wallet, it's the lack of physical home button. Everyone in their 70s and up seems to be given pause…

> The same is true in a physical card wallet. Not at all. In my physical wallet, those identical looking cards have different names on them, ie. and for joint accounts. I can also mark them up with a marker, or request a different picture from some banks. In iOS I need to remember that the one ending with 0044 is mine, and 0073 is for our joint account. I have no way to add an alias or distinguish them otherwise. Thi…

That's not universally true.

I have a shared checking account with my spouse. Both my personal card and shared card are the same, save for the actual card number.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by alistairSH »

aurareturn wrote: post #118
kilian wrote: post #71

The wallet app UI is the peak of Apple's 'single 20y/o in sf' design. Anyone that has multiple card from the same bank (because, say, you have a personal account and a shared account with your partner) has to do the "pick between the two identical looking top 20px of cards" dance every time they use Wallet to pay for something. It is mind-boggling that the current UI persists.

Why doesn’t the bank design a slightly different top for different cards?

Because the cards aren't different cards.

In my case, I have a personal card and a shared card from the same bank. The card type is the same, one just happens to have my spouse as a co-owner.

Some banks do allow you to pick a card look/image. Most don't.

But whatever the case, Apple really should allow tagging cards in the Wallet with a small icon/emoji/something. It doesn't need to be fancy - just enough to visually distinguish two otherwise visually similar cards.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by eNV25 »

mvdwoord wrote: post #100
kilian wrote: post #71

The wallet app UI is the peak of Apple's 'single 20y/o in sf' design. Anyone that has multiple card from the same bank (because, say, you have a personal account and a shared account with your partner) has to do the "pick between the two identical looking top 20px of cards" dance every time they use Wallet to pay for something. It is mind-boggling that the current UI persists.

First thing I noticed too, as I have multiple cards from the same bank. I also noticed they show you last digits of the ... CARD number, not the account number which would be tremendously more helpful. But I figured out you can put little icons on the cards. Which my bank did automatically for my business account. I added a little person icon for my personal account. Maybe bank specific though but definitely super du…

That's ridiculous. The card number has nothing to do with the account number.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by the_other »

lode wrote: post #138
Terretta wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same is true in a physical card wallet. An 80 year old with early onset challenges can work this wallet, pick a card, and then hold the phone to the reader at a store. It's all co-opting "familiar" actions for them, not tech-like, which means they can do it. The biggest UX issue Apple has for that persona isn't the wallet, it's the lack of physical home button. Everyone in their 70s and up seems to be given pause…

> The same is true in a physical card wallet. Not at all. In my physical wallet, those identical looking cards have different names on them, ie. and for joint accounts. I can also mark them up with a marker, or request a different picture from some banks. In iOS I need to remember that the one ending with 0044 is mine, and 0073 is for our joint account. I have no way to add an alias or distinguish them otherwise. Thi…

My banks provide different colour options for their cards. All my digital cards differ, even from the same bank. The alternate colours helps within the banks/ apps as well as within Wallet, so it's not just an iOS "workaround".

I agree, it would be nice if Apple added stickers, but the problem isn't, IMO, as bad as you make out.

Exceptions include transport and concert tickets. Most of the time this doesn't cause problems because I'm standing with the other people I'm travelling/gigging with, and the agent scanning the tickets doesn't care about any names on them.

Re: iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

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Post by lxgr »

reaperducer wrote: post #122
lxgr wrote: post #26

Finally! An option to override automatic (un)archival of passes is also desperately needed. Some passes just don’t expire based on time, and too many pass creators are too incompetent to put the correct time in even if they do. Airlines in particular are prone to things like using local time in a field expecting UTC, which has made boarding passes auto-archive hours before leaving for the airport for me…

Wallet → … → Expired → Edit → Select All → Eyeball (!) → Unhide. Doesn't help with the "automatic" part, but I try to remember to do this every few months.

This is for unhiding, but do you know of a way to do the reverse?
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