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Re: AI Product Graveyard

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Post by properbrew »

DetroitThrow wrote: post #43
add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's metaslop. AI Product Graveyard (tooldirectory.ai) 51 points by StriverGuy 36 minutes ago | flag | past | 22 comments [dead] Top AI Productivity Tools (tooldirectory.ai) 1 point by AIToolDirectory on Feb 4, 2024 | past | 1 comment [dead] Must-Have Free AI Tools for Developers (tooldirectory.ai) 1 point by AIToolDirectory on Jan 23, 2024 | past [dead] Top AI Voice Tools for 2024 (tooldirectory.ai) 1 point by AIToo…

Wish there was some better self moderation capability to ban sites or users that just post nonsensical slop.

What I don't understand is how half the comments are calling out how bad the content is, yet it's somehow 4th on the frontpage?

It looks like generic AI slop, the site doesn't even render the headings for their SEO spam "Curated AI Tool Collections by Use Case" section properly and they're half cut off. The images all have the very distinct generic AI hue to them without any attempt of bringing it into a specific style or brand.

Who is upvoting this stuff? Do people not care? Is it just bots gaming the system? Am I an old man shouting at a cloud?

Re: AI Product Graveyard

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Post by gavmor »

axegon_ wrote: post #35
gavmor wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it seem like even senior developers are forgetting this axiom? Or do we feel as though it's been obviated by LLM grokking swaths of text for us? TBH I'm so arrogant, I always suspect there's redundant nonsense in any code module I haven't myself inspected. LLM code is no different.

Seniors are no different and that infuriates me even more. The few times I felt lazy and let an AI do a simple function for me, all hell broke loose. I'm starting to think that many people were never that senior to begin with: Writing the code accounts for very little of what development requires and is often the easy part. Understanding the problem and finding the sweet spot/optimal compromise, edge cases and how yo…

I'm easily pushing 20 commits a day, but I won't pretend to have reviewed it all, let alone carefully. What I did was design it all carefully.

But, for some projects, yes—I still do line-by-line code review with a colleague.

Then again, a lot of my efforts are explicit refactor aimed at reducing LOC and tidying the codebase with, eg DRY.

> The few times I felt lazy and let an AI do a simple function for me, all hell broke loose.

This is confusing, because LLMs are more than capable of implementing "a simple function." How did you spec it out?

Re: AI Product Graveyard

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Post by ssgodderidge »

I recently tried to sign up for a new domain with a .ai namespace. I tried around 50 names. All of them were not only taken, but seemingly have a landing page with varying degrees of functionality described.

Try it - type a word into your browser with .ai and you’ll see

Re: AI Product Graveyard

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Post by jtbayly »

ssgodderidge wrote: post #64

I recently tried to sign up for a new domain with a .ai namespace. I tried around 50 names. All of them were not only taken, but seemingly have a landing page with varying degrees of functionality described. Try it - type a word into your browser with .ai and you’ll see

graveyard.ai is still open.

Re: AI Product Graveyard

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Post by phpnode »

zamadatix wrote: post #52

What made Google Graveyard interesting was they were often successful or extremely popular products (and the list was well done). Since then people have been posting Graveyards to show most businesses and products are never successful in the first place , but with a category filter to make it appear unique.

and then people get bored and stop updating them, soon we'll need a graveyard-graveyard to showcase all the failed graveyard projects.

Re: AI Product Graveyard

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Post by ambicapter »

ssgodderidge wrote: post #64

I recently tried to sign up for a new domain with a .ai namespace. I tried around 50 names. All of them were not only taken, but seemingly have a landing page with varying degrees of functionality described. Try it - type a word into your browser with .ai and you’ll see

sports.ai is returning a 403 unfortunately.

Re: AI Product Graveyard

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Post by ambicapter »

gavmor wrote: post #22
axegon_ wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Judging from everyone I know, it will take people a lot of time to learn and accept a lesson from decades ago(one from before some of us were even born and I'm in my mid 30's): lines of code is a shit metric. Sloppers tend to believe that something seemingly working = production ready = good execution. And the metric, of course, is lines of code or "tokens". Until then, the list on this website will keep growing expo…

Does it seem like even senior developers are forgetting this axiom? Or do we feel as though it's been obviated by LLM grokking swaths of text for us? TBH I'm so arrogant, I always suspect there's redundant nonsense in any code module I haven't myself inspected. LLM code is no different.

> I always suspect there's redundant nonsense in any code module I haven't myself inspected.

I don't think this is arrogance in the sense that it's probably correct. It is however pretty easy to take that line of thinking into an arrogant attitude though, which is the real issue.

Re: AI Product Graveyard

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Post by ambicapter »

axegon_ wrote: post #35
gavmor wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it seem like even senior developers are forgetting this axiom? Or do we feel as though it's been obviated by LLM grokking swaths of text for us? TBH I'm so arrogant, I always suspect there's redundant nonsense in any code module I haven't myself inspected. LLM code is no different.

Seniors are no different and that infuriates me even more. The few times I felt lazy and let an AI do a simple function for me, all hell broke loose. I'm starting to think that many people were never that senior to begin with: Writing the code accounts for very little of what development requires and is often the easy part. Understanding the problem and finding the sweet spot/optimal compromise, edge cases and how yo…

I once worked at a fairly large corp that considered itself tech-forward (it was a retail ecommerce company), and at one point they just decided to demote all engineers one level because they somehow finally realized that everyone they had been calling "Senior" were definitely not at that level.

Re: AI Product Graveyard

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Post by wrenchbender »

d-lowl wrote: post #28

Langfuse, W&B, streamlit and reclaim are far from dead. This list doesn't make much sense

There's several listed as "domain lapsed" when really they've been acquired. CentML for example is listed as "domain lapsed" when it was acquired by Nvidia back in June.
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