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The fun has been optimized out of the Internet

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Re: The fun has been optimized out of the Internet

#21
I think we just got older.

People are still having a blast online, but they’re mostly kids or teenagers.

Garrys Mod got replaced by Roblox, forums got replaced by Discord, blogs got replaced by vlogs.

There’s still lots of fun and community still to be found online, people wouldn’t spend so much time on it if there wasn’t.

Re: The fun has been optimized out of the Internet

#22
No, it's not! If you don't like the super-monetized over-optimized AI-generated walled garden we've-got-you-hooked experience —

just don't participate in it and do your own thing.

Start your own blog. Without ads, not to be "monetized", just for the fun of it.

Write for yourself, not for "engagement".

Do your thing.

Re: The fun has been optimized out of the Internet

#23
post #18
post #14

> I’ve been mourning the old Internet over the past year or two... As a kid on the Web from the early 2000s through the mid-2010s, we knew we were living through something special. It's funny because I knew lots of people in the early 2000s who were mourning the loss of the "old Internet" then. Kind of like how everyone thinks the music they listened to as a teenager is the best and it's all been downhill since.

That's when you ask what exactly was better and then you can tell whether it's just typical nostalgia or if there are genuinely things to miss.

You could also just ask current young people how they feel about the internet and compare it to how young people described the internet in ~2005-2010.

I guess my feeling is that no one really "likes" the internet in its currnet form. Gen X got to see the birth of the web, millenials got the birth of social media, Gen Z got tiktok and addictive recommendation algorithms, now Gen Alpha gets AI slop. Idk just seems like there is less to be excited about for young people on the internet these days.

Re: The fun has been optimized out of the Internet

#24
In some sense, the fun pockets still exist of course.

On the other hand, the algorithmic schelling points starve weird-ish corners of scale. The network effects + psychological draw of the single stream feeds is a powerful force.

The algorithmic spaces still have lots of weird. Maybe more weird than ever. But they also feel more bled of community (or even iterated contact with the same people).

It's a strange combination of facts. Maybe OPs post is not true in the literal sense, but it feels correct in the spiritual sense.

Re: The fun has been optimized out of the Internet

#25
Dead internet theory seems mostly proven by blog posts gesticulating about it. Digital creation is easier, more collaborative, and just as fun as it has ever been if you stop thinking in terms of mass audience and following the herd.

I'll grant you: Flash is a hole that never fully healed back. Search engines might not be especially great for discovery now either. They weren't especially great for Geocities shrines either, though.

Re: The fun has been optimized out of the Internet

#26

I agree, but it's been said by all... make homebrew software for an old Nintendo console pick up cross stitching or weaving make an independent film with a friend; use stuff from your kitchen as props find a borderline functional instrument at your local thrift store write a 1 page short story in pen it's not enough anymore to merely criticize this bad time we're having

Or just make homebrew.

It’s amazing how good just fermenting juice from the supermarket with a bit of added sugar can be.

It teaches patience and the blip blop of an airlock is a terrifically calming way to mark the passage of time.

Re: The fun has been optimized out of the Internet

#27
I've taken up gardening, I hike more, I go birdwatching every weekend, I practice pen and pencil drawing and sketching on paper, and I read more paper books these days since there's not much that's very compelling about the current web for me - at this point I'd rather be weeding than surfing the current web, it's great.

Re: The fun has been optimized out of the Internet

#29
So I love watching 50s-70s television shows: honeymooners, I love lucy, twilight zone, alfred hitchcock, Mission Impossible, Columbo. (recent MeTV lineup).

I'm a millennial. It occurred to just the other day, the language they use, they say "dough" a lot. They need dough. Where's the dough. Any criminal is always involved with gambling and gangs and they need dough! And the normal working people storylines are pinned to their lack-of-dough situations.

I remember the internet very fondly too. There's always an age of innocence but it just takes time to realize everyone just really needs and wants dough. And that's what happens.

Re: The fun has been optimized out of the Internet

#30
This take is always bizarre to me. You're not talking about the internet, you're talking about the websites you choose to use. There are alternatives for every single website/service that you don't like. They're often exactly like the Internet of yore in that they're not as streamlined, niche and have less people using it (these are aspects of the "fun" internet that people forget). The internet is a bunch of networked servers, not the handful of sites you feel like you're stuck using for some reason.
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