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Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache

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Don't you think our society has already pushed too far in the direction of mandated helicopter parenting? You can hardly let your kids play independently nowadays in the US without getting a CPS check-up due to someone believing kids should be on leashes; what your proposing is significantly more draconian

Maybe, but why normal people without children need to experience inconvenience, Internet restrictions and verifications just because there are a minority of negligent parents? Children are parents responsibility. Instead of banning adult sites, is not it better to ban families with children from Internet? Make some family-friendly Internet and let them all go there and not bother normal people.

Becuae if it wasn't the kids it'd be drug dealers. If it wasn't drug dealers it'd be terrorist. If it wasn't terrorists it be Nazis.

This isn't about kids. It's about control and the people too stupid to give it to policians.

For some reason everyone has something that turns their brain off and makes them happily turn over freedom to people who hate them.

Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache

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Of course they do. Only fools expected anything else. Does else anyone remember the "age verification" on '80s video games? Some of them were hilarious. I think it was Leisure Suit Larry that asked multiple choice history questions that I guess were meant to be impossible for fifth graders to guess. I was the local history nerd, so I remember getting calls from classmates, like "we're trying to get into a game; when…

We had as much fun trying to answer those questions as we did playing the game. They knew what they were doing.

offtopic, I would love remakes of all the old sierra games, with a local llm doing the text interface.

Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache

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Of course they do. Only fools expected anything else. Does else anyone remember the "age verification" on '80s video games? Some of them were hilarious. I think it was Leisure Suit Larry that asked multiple choice history questions that I guess were meant to be impossible for fifth graders to guess. I was the local history nerd, so I remember getting calls from classmates, like "we're trying to get into a game; when…

> I think it was Leisure Suit Larry that asked multiple choice history questions that I guess were meant to be impossible for fifth graders to guess. I'm from a non-English-speaking country. We didn't understand the questions at all, but all us kids in the neighborhood got into the game just fine with some brute forcing. Also, coming up with the expected commands in the game was way beyond our skills so we'd only adv…

> I'm from a non-English-speaking country.

Same, our solution was to pirate Softice, then step through the startup to find the checks and replace them with nops or point at the desired location. Sierra games were not that amenable to this though because of the interpreter.

Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache

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I don't want to give my ID to every service I interact online. But I also don't think it's reasonable to ask of parents to ensure their children aren't accessing age restricted content online. What about liquor shops or strip clubs? They ask for ID, which makes sense; we're not expecting parents to make sure their children don't go into these places. But the liquor shop takes a look at the ID and then doesn't collect…

>> Being entirely against age verification is not a good stance I think I think the problem is that the internet has existed for quite a while without it. I'm sure there were similar complaints from people when you suddenly needed to pass a test to drive a car or when insurance became mandatory. >> There are systems that preserve privacy while still making it possible to verify you're old enough to use a service. Wha…

> What are these systems?

We could have a system where I authenticate myself against a government service only, or also licensed third party providers, they then provide me with signed proof-of-age certificates that can also be single use, and then I use them to proof my age with a particular service.

Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache

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None of this prohibition works. Kids will find ways around it, authorities will get stricter, rinse and repeat. A total shitshow. A lot of people mentioning off-license/booze/tobacco like that was a success story. It isn’t. Outside main/high streets, kids manage to buy stuff just fine. Success requires enforcement, constant vigilance and heavy penalties. Not applicable to Meta at al. Social media is a drug. Just like…

Jesus christ. Your poor kid. This is how you rise someone that will never talk to you once they turn 30.

I let her have WhatsApp when she was 13. She’s autistic and couldn’t disconnect at all. Her friends got pissed off with her because of something that was said on a chat. She lost her friends at school and ended up being bullied. Masked pretty well too, so when we found out it was too late. Missed years of schooling. I’m pretty sure she will be living with me once she turns 30, so yeah she will be talking to me alright.

Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache

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The next age verification tech will involve checking tallness so we'll have kids standing on eachother's shoulders in a big trenchcoat to do the very adult act of installing linux.

My 12yo son is already significantly taller than me! We had to use his passport to prove he’s much younger than these systems report because they were locking him out from chatting to his friends (said the age gap was too big)

Wait, am I understanding correctly: for your child to chat with their friends you had you send a copy of their passport to a stranger in the Internet because "a system" thought they were older looking that their friends?

What are we doing even?

Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache

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The next age verification tech will involve checking tallness so we'll have kids standing on eachother's shoulders in a big trenchcoat to do the very adult act of installing linux.

I can already see angry post on reddit that some short king failed a verification test.

This is the new version of being IDed while in your 30's.

Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache

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Of course they do. Only fools expected anything else. Does else anyone remember the "age verification" on '80s video games? Some of them were hilarious. I think it was Leisure Suit Larry that asked multiple choice history questions that I guess were meant to be impossible for fifth graders to guess. I was the local history nerd, so I remember getting calls from classmates, like "we're trying to get into a game; when…

> I think it was Leisure Suit Larry that asked multiple choice history questions that I guess were meant to be impossible for fifth graders to guess. I'm from a non-English-speaking country. We didn't understand the questions at all, but all us kids in the neighborhood got into the game just fine with some brute forcing. Also, coming up with the expected commands in the game was way beyond our skills so we'd only adv…

LSL 1 EGA specifically is pretty much how I learned English. It was certainly much more efficient than my teachers :)

Re: Kids can bypass some age checks with a drawn-on mustache

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None of this prohibition works. Kids will find ways around it, authorities will get stricter, rinse and repeat. A total shitshow. A lot of people mentioning off-license/booze/tobacco like that was a success story. It isn’t. Outside main/high streets, kids manage to buy stuff just fine. Success requires enforcement, constant vigilance and heavy penalties. Not applicable to Meta at al. Social media is a drug. Just like…

Wonder if she has a burner phone so she can talk to her friends. You've probably made her paranoid enough to know better than connect it to your wifi.

I don’t know if you are a parent of teenagers. Where I live in the UK, teenagers don’t use phone. They only communicate via chat. Relatively large sample (several schools, year groups, ages, etc) but single area.

If you don’t have kids, maybe don’t speak pejoratively about the difficulties in raising children nowadays.

If you do, try to be a bit more empathetic.

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